rhm Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 Unless they are playing a system where 1 level opening is unlimited, pd is limited.He is limited with 17-22. Therefore you can pass if you believe even a 22 count would not make a good play in game.(in practice almost everyone opens 2♣ with 22)You may ask "then why respond at the first place?" Answer is easy - You may hold a hand that would improve a lot had you found a fit, and for the rest you were willing to bail out once you believe you improved the contract. An example: JTxxxxxxxxxxxVoid 1♣--1♠2 red--passOpeners have been known to fake a reverse with a strong hand and excellent spade support (even 4 card support). Still pass maybe percentage Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cthulhu D Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 yes it's forcing, but i just think it's probably the percentage action i mean if we have game meh we're non vul at least :P Jeff Goldmsith has the interesting take that even if passing a forcing bid is right on the hand infront of you, the lasting effect on the partnership means its not worth it: Partner may in the future decide to take more extreme action for fear of you passing a forcing bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfi Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 Jeff Goldmsith has the interesting take that even if passing a forcing bid is right on the hand infront of you, the lasting effect on the partnership means its not worth it: Partner may in the future decide to take more extreme action for fear of you passing a forcing bid. Kit Woolsey has taken the opposing position. His general point was that partner should trust you to do what you believe is the percentage action given the available information, even if it goes against systemic agreements. If partner can't do that, then they are probably not the right partner. Of course, the underlying premise is that you should be doing whatever works for the partnership in the long run. OTOH, I don't think this is the right hand to pass with - you have a normal response so there is no reason to suspect partner can't cater for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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