Limit Raise??

[zhasbeen]

This is not the firt time GIB has made a “limit” raise with an opening hand. However, I thought it would be a stretch to go with this one. If this doesn’t teach me then nothing will.

 

GIB is a very difficult partner.

 

http://tinyurl.com/y88ks73d

 

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[helene_t]

Yes, GIB makes very conservative limit raises and you should only reject if you have absolute rubbish.

 

This a partially due to the constructive single raises in the 2/1 system, which pushes the lower bound for a limit raise up a bit higher than it would be in old-fashioned SA and Acol.

 

It is partially due to the DD analysis which is a bit more pessimistic than real play, where you can bid a game on a combined flat 24-count, hoping that the defenders will give away a trick on the opening lead.

[steve2005]

well conservative is one thing. Gib has 5 trump! turn Q♠ or Q♥ into small card still worth game.

[smerriman]

To basic GIB the hand above is equivalent to any flat 12 point hand. It doesn't seem to take into account extra trump length sadly, though I guess advanced GIB could.

[jdonn]

GIB unfortunately doesn't add points for the extra trumps, and subtracts for the AQ doubleton. But there still should be a rule that says, essentially, you don't need as many points to bid game with 5+ card support.