lamford Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 [hv=pc=n&w=s7h974daj65caj753&e=sa964ha3dkq987ck4&d=e&v=0&b=14&a=1np3nppp]266|200[/hv] This slam was only bid at 2 of the six tables in the Camrose Trophy last night, and Farmer X and Farmer Y, who shall remain nameless, managed the above auction. How would you bid it. It is over 98% according to Bridge Analyser, needing some filthy breaks to threaten you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spotlight7 Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 [hv=pc=n&w=s7h974daj65caj753&e=sa964ha3dkq987ck4&d=e&v=0&b=14&a=1np3nppp]266|200[/hv] This slam was only bid at 2 of the six tables in the Camrose Trophy last night, and Farmer X and Farmer Y, who shall remain nameless, managed the above auction. How would you bid it. It is over 98% according to Bridge Analyser, needing some filthy breaks to threaten you. 1N-2C-2S-3H*(0-1 Ss)-4D-5C*(Last Train Style)-6D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 I don't think I can bid this as is, but if W gets to open whether or not he does (I prob do, partner prob doesn't) I can. 1♦-2♦(inverted not GF)-2♠-3♣-3♥(4SF)-4♣-4♥(KC) would be a start that got there, but I'm not convinced our auction would go that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo1201 Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 What about starting (if W is disciplined and doesn’t want to blast) with 1NT-3S (54 minors w/ singleton S) ? now E has a top top hand...Then probably 4D-5D I’m min, 6D f*** you 😉! Or 5C-6D if you are more confident😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamford Posted January 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 1N-2C-2S-3H*(0-1 Ss)-4D-5C*(Last Train Style)-6DMany play that 1N-2C-2S-3H and 1N-2C-2H-3S are hands too good to raise to game. I play with some that 1NT-3M is a shortage, and that works well here. I think 1NT-3H can have four spades, but play with some that 1NT-3S denies four hearts. I guess it is all about agreement. With Vampyr I would bid 1NT-2NT-(5+diamonds) then 3H, a fragment with 1-3-5-4 (or maybe 1-2-6-4). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spotlight7 Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 I use 1N-3H* as JackFit for virtually all balanced hands. We have a combined 30+HCP and partner shows his slam suitability. 1N-3H*-3S* suggests slam is poor unless partner has extra values. Slam with '31+HCP and no jacks' is normally a decent contract 'if' a fit is found. The replies to 1N-3H* 'subtract jack HCP from the HCP count to show bad, average and plus 1 slam type values. 1N and a transfer to clubs followed up by 3S* (shows 5+Cs and 4Ds)with an unbalanced hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 Playing 5542 and 14-16 NT 1♦---3♠(splinter) makes it very easy to bid slam. This does not mean I am against opening this hand 1 NT but it is kinda too strong for 1 NT in 14-16 context. Responder splintering with 10 hcp may look a little too stretched but here comes the hand evaluation. To me W hand improves A LOT if East opens 1♦ showing 4+♦....2 aces + all values in the long 2 suits + singleton worth more than the bean count indicates imho. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 I use the 3!S bid to show 5/4 minors, and 4D shows a hand that has interest and 5!C would be very nice to hear. The NT opening should see the hand has huge potential facing 4 card support in D. Its his unlucky day when pard has 5D and only 4C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikestar13 Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 My favorite Precision method nails it: 1♣ - 1♥ -1NT - 2♣ - 2♦ -3♠, where 1♥ is positive balanced, three suited, or major-minor canape, 2♣ and 2♦ are natural five+ card suits, and 3♠ is a splinter in support of diamonds, the opener can use RKCB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamford Posted January 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 My favorite Precision method nails it: 1♣ - 1♥ -1NT - 2♣ - 2♦ -3♠, where 1♥ is positive balanced, three suited, or major-minor canape, 2♣ and 2♦ are natural five+ card suits, and 3♠ is a splinter in support of diamonds, the opener can use RKCB.I play Precision once a month and we would bid 1C-2D(FG with 5 clubs)-3D(natural)-3S(cue)-4C(cue)-4D(better than 5D)-6D. Always easier though looking at both hands. I agree with MrAce that the East hand is too good for 1NT and the West hand is worth a splinter over 1D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmnka447 Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 Playing Strong NTs, I'm not sure that I'd be able to bid this slam. I don't think you can unless you have specific tools to uncover this particular type of responder's hand. After 1 NT-2 ♣- 2 ♠, I'd be likely to just bid 3 NT knowing that we have only 27 HCPs at most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 I will hazard a guess and say that the vast majority of partnerships would have no trouble showing this stiff spade if they had 1 long minor probably via something like 1n 2s (transfer to clubs) 3c 3s or something similar. I have long felt pinpointing such problem hands with 2 minor suits (even as few as 9 cards) and otherwise GF hands needs equal attention. I think 1n 3h/s solves this conundrum and has much more utility than most of the other alternatives. After 1n 3s the opening bidder's hand becomes a HULK. It is difficult to imagine many responder hands where 6 diamonds has no play and even 7d should be in the discussion if responder has as little as a Q of extra values. As opener I would just take charge and bid 4n (regular blackwood since the trump suit has not been set). Responder will realize such bidding by opener is only possible with a huge trump fit (or huge double fit) and gladly respond 5h which is music to opener. The 5s bid asking for anything extra to consider 7 (5n would be pick your minor we have a double fit). Unfortunately responder has nothing else of interest (if those 2 stinking jacks had been the heart K (a 5n bid to show something extra but that cant be shown w/o passing 6m) or club Q I would be bidding 7) and quietly subsides in 6c. This POC bid has to be made since we do not know which suit opener has in case they fit only 1 minor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 As George mentioned, if E opens 1 NT W has better bids than just 3 NT. After all 3 NT may not be our best spot.I play GIB cc with most non regular partners. 1 NT--2♠ (minor suit stayman, there is no weak option, it shows 11+ hcp)3♦(4+ ♦)--3♠ (shortness) Now no one can stop E before slam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
all loomis Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 even at pairs, this is not a 1nt. after 1d, you can get there, i hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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