Wackojack Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?bbo=y&lin=pn||st%7C%7Cmd%7C4SKJ953HQDQT6CJ986%2CS%2CSAT84HAKJ743D8CA7%2%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%2014%7Csv%7Co%7Cmb%7C4D%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4H%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cmc%7C9%7C 1. Q ♣ lead to Ace2. small ♥ to Q What next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 http://www.bridgebas...CCJ%7Cmc%7C9%7C 1. Q ♣ lead to Ace2. small ♥ to Q What next? Scoring method helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 My assumption is RHO has 5C and quite possibly a stiff A or K of D. I can not afford to lead a S to the 10, so its the A. I hope it wins cash trumps to get a count. It is looking like LHO may have 3S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wackojack Posted December 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 Imps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnu Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 What are the opponents lead conventions? Initially it looks like East is leading from shortness, but the ♣10 gives another story since with ♣K10x(x)(x) and looking at ♣J98x in dummy, who is going to play the 10 since that looks to be a sure winner? So it feels like East has lead from ♣KQxx(x) along with with an expected 7 diamonds. A spade void is a possibility. I don't want to commit to a spade guess until later, so I'm going to lead ♦Q from dummy to establish an entry to North. I can afford to lose a diamond, club, and club ruff if I guess the spades later, and will likely have a complete count on the distribution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relknes Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 Next I call the director, as North has 14 cards? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 Imps Thanks but is it my browser or not I have no idea I am having hard time to read the hands (too small). But if I am not wrong, North has 14 cards, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wackojack Posted December 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 Really sorry I don't know how that happened. [hv=pc=n&s=skj953hqdqt6cj986&n=sat84hakj743d8ca7&d=e&v=0&b=14&a=4dpp4hppp]266|200|As far as aware East was playing standard leads. and fwiiw udca carding [/hv] 1. Q♣ 6 10 Ace2. Q♥ 8 3 5 Next?I was North and East-West opps were competent We were playing saved viewgraph hands.North -Souths were Hamman/Zia and Helness/HelgemoEast- Wests were Multon/Zimmermann and Nickell/Katz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 We were playing saved viewgraph hands.North -Souths were Hamman/Zia and Helness/HelgemoEast- Wests were Multon/Zimmermann and Nickell/KatzExcept that in the original Nickell passed with the East hand and Multon opened 1♦. What disturbs me a little is the way you phrased the OP here. Is one logical line not to start with ♥AK under the assumption that Opener does not hold ♠Q? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wackojack Posted December 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 Except that in the original Nickell passed with the East hand and Multon opened 1♦. What disturbs me a little is the way you phrased the OP here. Is one logical line not to start with ♥AK under the assumption that Opener does not hold ♠Q? Are you saying this is the best line then? Or are you saying this is another line that should not be ruled out and I should just have given the opening lead and no more? Yes perhaps it would have been better if I had done this. It may be giving away information to say what they did on viewgraph, I am asking for the considered best line after the 4♦ opening bid at my BBO table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 Are you saying this is the best line then? Or are you saying this is another line that should not be ruled out and I should just have given the opening lead and no more? Yes perhaps it would have been better if I had done this. It may be giving away information to say what they did on viewgraph, I am asking for the considered best line after the 4♦ opening bid at my BBO table.I am not really qualified to say if it is the best line but it is certainly a line I like after the 4♦ opening as it simplifies the play greatly. I would not try it after a 1♦ opening but in that case we would also not be in 4♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 [hv=pc=n&s=skj953hqdqt6cj986&n=sat84hakj743d8ca7&d=e&v=0&b=14&a=4dpp4hppp]266|200|As far as aware East was playing standard leads. and fwiiw udca carding1. Q♣ 6 10 Ace2. Q♥ 8 3 5I was North and East-West opps were competentWe were playing saved viewgraph hands.North -Souths were Hamman/Zia and Helness/HelgemoEast- Wests were Multon/Zimmermann and Nickell/Katz[/hv]With 3 ♣ tricks 5+ ♥ tricks, we only need to be careful with trumps.JohnU points out that RHO seems to have 4 ♣s. He also has least 7 ♦s, so we should probably start with ♠K, intending to play LHO for ♠ length, making at least 11 tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wackojack Posted December 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 With 3 ♣ tricks 5+ ♥ tricks, we only need to be careful with trumps.JohnU points out that RHO seems to have 4 ♣s. He also has least 7 ♦s, so we should probably start with ♠K, intending to play LHO for ♠ length, making at least 11 tricks.If East has 7♦ +4♣ and you next lead K♠Then: With 0274 East ruffs and you cannot get back to hand to take ♠ finesse so 1 down.With 1174 East follows. What next? Looks like you have to play another spade and take the known? finesse provided you were right about 7-4. East ruffs and you make 10 tricks2074 is excluded if you have already played a ♥ at trick 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 If East has 7♦ +4♣ and you next lead K♠Then: With 0274 East ruffs and you cannot get back to hand to take ♠ finesse so 1 down.With 1174 East follows. What next? Looks like you have to play another spade and take the known? finesse provided you were right about 7-4. East ruffs and you make 10 tricks2074 is excluded if you have already played a ♥ at trick 2.Sorry, I'd forgotton what suit was trumps :) again :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 http://www.bridgebas...CCJ%7Cmc%7C9%7C1. Q ♣ lead to Ace2. small ♥ to QWhat next?[hv=lin=pn||st%7C%7Cmd%7C4SKJ953HQDQT6CJ986%2CS%2CSAT84HAKJ743D8CA7%2%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%2014%7Csv%7Co%7Cmb%7C4D%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4H%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cmc%7C9%7C]300|300|After ♣A, ♥Q, ♠A ruffed by East, ♦A, ♦K ruffed by North: Can you recover by: Cashing ♥AKJ discarding 3♠s. Then exiting in ♣s This seems to work even if you misguess ♦s :)[/hv] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 After ♣A, ♥Q, ♠A ruffed by East, ♦A, ♦K ruffed by North:And if East underleads the ♦ at T4 and West provides a second ♠ ruff? :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wackojack Posted December 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 And if East underleads the ♦ at T4 and West provides a second ♠ ruff? :oThat would be a killer if East were 0373 and not 74 in the minors as assumed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 That would be a killer if East were 0373 and not 74 in the minors as assumed.A distribution all the more annoying when we could have picked the trumps up by starting with ♥A.... B-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 I followed your line, and you had 11 top tricks after ruffing out ♦K. 3 clubs, 1 spade, 6 hearts, 1♦. Discarding dummy's clubs was a poor play. About the general play, I have no idea, what is Gib leading queen from? if it is doubleton or singleton I like ♣A, ♥Q, ♦Q to cut their communication, you can afford a club ruff as long as you can pitch your spades on the clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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