pigpenz Posted April 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 I would be willing to help in anyway possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 I nominate Hog and Hrothgar for Al Roth role. They both know their bidding theory, scathingly witty with erudite commentary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elianna Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 I nominate Hog and Hrothgar for Al Roth role. They both know their bidding theory, scathingly witty with erudite commentary. I think that this is a bad idea, because I agree with Ben, that aiming for a smaller number of "official" panelists than participants is desired. The cool thing about having this here, instead of a magazine, is that, after everyone has their answers in, everyone CAN have their say in a discussion thread, so you WILL get to hear from these people, just maybe the panel size should be limited. I suggest the five that Ben listed above (Luis, Roland, Rado, Justin, Cascade), plus after the winner of the previous contest. So except for the first, we'll have six panelists. This way, we're only eliminating 8 (6 panelists + Ben + scorekeeper) people from participating. Hopefully there will be over 9 who do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keylime Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 This would be great fun - I'm in and i'm getting two others to be interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 I see the nominees for the Al Roth role.Pray tell, who gets nominated to play the role of Barbara Rappaport (such a beautiful woman)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 Just noticed the list of suggested panelists.BW MSC should be so lucky to have a panel of such a high caliber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 Indeed. There are several panelists on MSC who have been on there for a VERY long time, and their bridge is not what it used to be, in say the 1960's. Perhaps there are reasons why Rubens doesn't want to replace them. BBO should not have that problem for at least another THIRTY years :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 Just noticed the list of suggested panelists.BW MSC should be so lucky to have a panel of such a high caliber. Are you on crack? I just grabbed a random copy of the Bridge World to look at the panelists: Baze, Beatty, Berkowitz, Bethe, Bramley, Cohen, Eisenberg, Fallenius, Granovetter, Hamilton, Hudecek, Kantar, Katz, Kehela, Kokish, Miles, Rosenberg, Roth, Rubens, Rubin, Silver, Soloway, Swanson, Wolff, Woolsey, and few others... With all due respect to the suggested panel, I don't think that the Bridge World comes up short in the comparison... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 Just noticed the list of suggested panelists.BW MSC should be so lucky to have a panel of such a high caliber. Are you on crack? I just grabbed a random copy of the Bridge World to look at the panelists: Baze, Beatty, Berkowitz, Bethe, Bramley, Cohen, Eisenberg, Fallenius, Granovetter, Hamilton, Hudecek, Kantar, Katz, Kehela, Kokish, Miles, Rosenberg, Roth, Rubens, Rubin, Silver, Soloway, Swanson, Wolff, Woolsey, and few others... With all due respect to the suggested panel, I don't think that the Bridge World comes up short in the comparison... I don't think BBO has a chance of surpassing BW in terms of the caliber of the MSC panel. However, there are many on MSC that have no business setting bidding 'policy' for a system that supposedly can be used by a pick-up expert partnership. Some of the players were active when Goren played and cannot possibly be in tune with 21st century bidding philosophy. Look at everyone's choices for the Cavendish and compare that list with the MSC panel. You'll see a lot of disparity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 No, Richard, not on Crack ("crack is wack"). But, believe me, where I work I could probably get my hands on some in less than 5 minutes/ always see broken crack vials on sidewalks. (south bronx vs. mem. drive and kendall/central square---OK, maybe take 10 minutes around there lololol) I was just trying to make the observation that our selected panel is not exactly shabby, and to give the panel members my vote of support and compliments. We have some pretty darn fine players and analysts among the forum members and posters: They might not be Solloways et.al., but we have a pretty good overall base of knowledge among the forum members. Good grief, mon. "Chill" !!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoeless Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 Some nominees if you need more - Mittmouse (both playing under this name are world champs), Kraft (for the better than EOK look :()), Stewball (just cause he's totally cool) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 Why don't we ask Fred if he has time to be on the panel? That would be a treat! Maybe Ben already did, sorry then. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 Indeed. There are several panelists on MSC who have been on there for a VERY long time, and their bridge is not what it used to be, in say the 1960's. Perhaps there are reasons why Rubens doesn't want to replace them. BBO should not have that problem for at least another THIRTY years :( I hope he doesn't replace them any time soon! I very much enjoy reading the opinions of "senior" MSC panelists like Rubin, Wolff, Kehela, and Lazard. These guys are among the greatest and most successful players in history. Even if you think they are "out of touch with modern bidding ideas", many of the MSC problems are problems of judgment and logic that transcend system. I even feel that I have benefited greatly from reading back issues of The Bridge World (especially the Master Solvers Club). My collection of back issues goes back all the way to the beginning (1929). Even in the earliest days of bridge where "standard bidding" was VERY different than it is today, you can learn a lot by studying the thinking processes and judgment calls of the best players. Of course the very nature of the MSC is that I do not always agree with the opinions of all of the panelists, but there is a lot to be said for listening to other viewpoints, even if your first impression is that some of these viewpoints are crazy. This is especially true when the people providing the viewpoints have been great champions. Even if some of these people are not active tournament players anymore, they certainly were doing something right over an extended period of time. Their MSC answers help us to gain insight into what that something was. Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 Why don't we ask Fred if he has time to be on the panel? That would be a treat! Maybe Ben already did, sorry then. Roland I will be happy to be on the panel, but I apologize in advance if my schedule somethimes makes it impossible for me to provide my answers in time. Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 Why don't we ask Fred if he has time to be on the panel? That would be a treat! Maybe Ben already did, sorry then. Roland I will be happy to be on the panel, but I apologize in advance if my schedule somethimes makes it impossible for me to provide my answers in time. Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Excellent news! Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patapon Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 I would say the gold stars that post here, Luis, roland, jlall, ritong, Walddk, Rado (where has he been?), and maybe either some ringers from BBO who don't post here or, a couple of forum regulars who in the opinion of the moderator have useful things to say. Does that sound like what you guys have in mind? Ben I think the panel of stars is perfect..But i don't see any woman in this list.Am i wrong? Benedicte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 YES! What Patapon said. and there doesn't appear to be any women among the names of BW MSC panelists listed (unless Berkowitz is Lisa, Granovetter is Pam, and Rosenberg is Debbie/Debrose). A great many female stars can often be seen playing on BBO. Just an observation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 we have several fantastic women players to choose from... a couple of jills, a joyce or two, a bev, a carlyn, a sheri, a farfinator, the list goes on... and of course, bene :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothy Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 I think the panel of stars is perfect..But i don't see any woman in this list.Am i wrong? Benedicte Is it just coincidence or a repartée of my male intuition that it took a female, 'La Bavarde' a ses amis , to notice that there were no women on the panel. Quite right Béné!!! You cant blame us though Bene....its like asking children to play outside the sand-box... Alex ... a man hanging his head in shame PS You are right up there with Emily Pankhurst spearheading the Sufragette Movement B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoeless Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Geez thought we were supposed to notice but wait to get smacked for not noticing - sigh will I ever get this right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 What Lukewarm said. A definite big 10-4. And don't forget Mrs. Q. !!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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