virgosrock Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 [hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?lin=pn%7Cvirgosrock%2CHAPPY_HUMAN%2CRobotN%2CRobotE%7Cst%7C%7Cmd%7C1S48KAH24D2678C7JA%2CS3579TJHTQD9KC345%2CSH679JD35TJQC69TK%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard+3%7Csv%7Ce%7Cmb%7C1C%7Can%7CMinor+suit+opening+--+3%2B+%21C%3B+11-21+HCP%3B+%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1H%7Can%7COne+over+one+--+4%2B+%21H%3B+6%2B+total+points+%7Cmb%7C1N%7Can%7COne+notrump+overcall+--+2-5+%21C%3B+2-5+%21D%3B+2-5+%21H%3B+2-5+%21S%3B+15-17+HCP%3B+18-+total+points%3B+stop+in+%21C%3B+stop+in+%21H+%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2H%21%7Can%7CJacoby+transfer+--+5%2B+%21S%3B+16-+total+poin%7Cmb%7C3C%7Can%7C4%2B+%21C%3B+4%2B+%21H%3B+9-12+total+points+%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3S%7Can%7C6%2B+%21S%3B+8-9+total+points%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4S%7Can%7C2-5+%21C%3B+2-5+%21D%3B+2-5+%21H%3B+2-5+%21S%3B+16-17+HCP%3B+17-18+total+points%3B+stop+in+%21C%3B+stop+in+%21H+%7Cmb%7Cd%7Can%7C4%2B+%21C%3B+2-+%21H%3B+2%2B+%21S%3B+11%2B+HCP%3B+12-14+tota%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C5C%7Can%7C4%2B+%21C%3B+4%2B+%21H%3B+11%2B+HCP%3B+12+total+points+%7Cmb%7Cd%7Can%7C2-5+%21C%3B+2-5+%21D%3B+2-5+%21H%3B+2-5+%21S%3B+16-17+HCP%3B+17-18+total+points%3B+stop+in+%21C%3B+stop+in+%21H+%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpg%7C%7C%0A%0A]399|300[/hv] Rule should be "When partner doubles and is not responsive or negative STFU especially at 4-level or above, especially if pard is not GIB". I am not proud of my play. Was in shock after dummy showed 4C and the ridiculous pull. vrock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2005 Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 When human partner's pull pen X cause they are void in trump. I ask them if they considered that the reason they are void in trump is because I have a lot?They don't seem to get it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBengtsson Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 i open 1♦ south. my prefer. do not like to have xxxx but with four of suit i think it better than 1♣. not ideally but 3/3 ♣/♦ open 1♣. 4/3♣/♦ open 4 long suit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 I think the pull is reasonable. South didn't make a support double so he has at least four clubs. I believe that unless partner is a position to make a unilateral penalty double, you should usually pull it with a void in trumps. The double is speculative. Not really bad but you must be prepared that it can backfire. I have other issues with GIB's bidding, though. Why does 3♣ show 9-12 points? Also, since GIB doesn't play Walsh I am not sure why it bids this rubbish heart suit first. Especially when playing NMF so it can't bid diamonds naturally later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2005 Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Also, since GIB doesn't play Walsh I am not sure why it bids this rubbish heart suit first. Gib appears to play Walsh even though it's cc doesn't say will bypass ♦ suit it almost always does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2005 Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 I think the pull is reasonable. South didn't make a support double so he has at least four clubs. I believe that unless partner is a position to make a unilateral penalty double, you should usually pull it with a void in trumps. The double is speculative. Not really bad but you must be prepared that it can backfire. Agreed the double is speculative. But Gib shouldn't be assuming this. To pull a double to the 5-level you need a reason to think 4♠ making and 5♣ makes or at least not a disaster. Partner has said it's going down. Going by the usual crap Gib doubles on all doubles should be pulled and Gib pulls way too many doubles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Gib appears to play Walsh even though it's cc doesn't say will bypass ♦ suit it almost always does.But it still rebids 1M with balanced hands, I think. Which means that it doesn't have to bid a 4-card major first as responder. It may be a reasonable to do it when the major is good and the diamonds are not worth talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnu Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 I think the pull is reasonable. South didn't make a support double so he has at least four clubs. I believe that unless partner is a position to make a unilateral penalty double, you should usually pull it with a void in trumps. The double is speculative. Not really bad but you must be prepared that it can backfire. Pulling the double would be pretty ridiculous if this was a human player, but par for the course for GIB :( South passed out 3♣, East has a strong NT hand, so what do you think the odds are of making 5♣ when South was unwilling to bid past 3♣ and has announced good values in spades and strong interest in 4♠X? Whether the double is speculative or not is not North's problem. Of course, the double backfired because North was a GIB and the programming is bad. FWIW, this hand is an interesting Law of Total Tricks example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhasbeen Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 i open 1♦ south. my prefer. do not like to have xxxx but with four of suit i think it better than 1♣. not ideally but 3/3 ♣/♦ open 1♣. 4/3♣/♦ open 4 long suit me too...without a second thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2005 Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 me too...without a second thoughtYes. opening the wrong minor is a tactic people employ with Gib. Sometimes it throws off the defense amongst other things. I don't know how successful they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virgosrock Posted December 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 Yes. opening the wrong minor is a tactic people employ with Gib. Sometimes it throws off the defense amongst other things. I don't know how successful they are. yes. i use it against GIBby to throw its lead calculations off. works sometimes. vrock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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