Kungsgeten Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 If you had to design an opening structure for a system where non of the bids (except pass) at the one or two level could be "weak", what would the system look like? Let's say all opening bids below 3♣ has to show at least, I don't know, perhaps 10 hcp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 If you had to design an opening structure for a system where non of the bids (except pass) at the one or two level could be "weak", what would the system look like? Let's say all opening bids below 3♣ has to show at least, I don't know, perhaps 10 hcp? Fantunes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickRW Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 1x 4 or 5 card majors according to choice1NT weak or strong according to choice2C Traditional2M Acol 22NT 20-21bal2D Strong only multi, say 22-23bal or Acol 2 in either minor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spotlight7 Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 Churchill Natural 4 card majors. 12-14 1NT. No strong forcing opening. 1NT* reply to one of a suit HCP @4+HCP and often less with a 6 card suit or 5 card support for the opening bid. One over one bid was @8+HCP He held the Life Masters winning percentage record for over a decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kungsgeten Posted November 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 Yes there's several existing (or former) systems having this approach. Strong two bids perhaps being the most well known. I was thinking more in the line of new system ideas, but old ideas are fine too :) Ken Rexford's MICS system doesn't include weak bids: 1C = Strong1D = 4+D, canapé style, or 6+C single-suited.1M = 4+M, canapé style, or 5M332.1NT = 12-152C = Three-suited.2D = Both minors, 13-152M = Roman (5+M and 4+C)2NT = Both minors, 10-12 Or why not a "balanced diamond", to counter the modern trend of unbalanced diamond openings? ;) 1C = Strong1D = 11-13 NT1M = 5+M1NT = 14-16 NT2m = 6+m or 5-4 minors.2M = 4M and 5+m.2NT = 5-5 minors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullve Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 If you had to design an opening structure for a system where non of the bids (except pass) at the one or two level could be "weak", what would the system look like? Let's say all opening bids below 3♣ has to show at least, I don't know, perhaps 10 hcp?FantunesI prefer to have 5 (predominantly) weak 2-level openings instead of 0, but instead of Fantunes, maybe 1♣ = "10+, NAT unBAL" or "11-13/17-19/26+ BAL" [what I (= nullve-nullve) play now]1♦ = "10+, NAT unBAL" or "20-22 BAL" [what I play now]1M = "13+, 5+ M, unBAL" [what I play now now, but with "13+" replacing "10-21"]1N = "14-16 BAL" [what I play now]2x = "10-12", Multilandy guaranteeing 5+ M2N = "23-25 BAL" [the strong option in what I play now]other = normal, which avoids most of the problems Fantunes has on unBAL "10-12" hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kvr_msk Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 It's a funny question for me because it's exactly about the system which I created some years ago and continue playing it now. :) 1♣ = 12-15 balanced (including any 5332) / 12-15 unbalanced with clubs / 12-15 3-suited without diamonds1♦ = 12-15 4+♦ unbalanced without 5-card majors1♥ = 16-21 4+♥1♠ = 16-21 4+♠1NT = 16-21 balanced without 4-card majors2♣ = 16-21 unbalanced 4+♣ without 4-card majors2♦ = 16-21 6+♦ without another 4-card suits / 22-24 balanced2♥ = 10-15 5+♥ unbalanced2♠ = 10-15 5+♠ unbalanced2NT = GF (22+ unbalanced / 25+ balanced) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kungsgeten Posted November 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 Strong diamond idea: 1C = Club canapé style or 11-13 NT. Not both minors.1D = Strong.1M = Canapé style.1NT = 14-162C = Minors2D = Natural single-suiter2M = 5M and 4+D.2NT = Strong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straube Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 I’d just try to fit to what I presently like. Maybe... 2D-10-15 6D, not 4H2M-natural (6-7cd) and 10-12/132N-10-15 6D/4H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cthulhu D Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 You could be boring and do polish club with a 14-16 NT and a Mexican 2D and flannery. 2S is akward. Playing it as 10-12 with 6 spades probably makes life easier. Now all your constructive auctions are super clean as you've taken all the balanced options except 11-13 out of 1C and you have great definition on your 1H opener. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kungsgeten Posted December 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 You could be boring and do polish club with a 14-16 NT and a Mexican 2D and flannery. 2S is akward. Playing it as 10-12 with 6 spades probably makes life easier. Now all your constructive auctions are super clean as you've taken all the balanced options except 11-13 out of 1C and you have great definition on your 1H opener. Not sure which would bid Polish would benefit more from; Flannery or "Precision 2D". 1C = 12-14 NT or 15+ clubs or (17)18+ unbal or 22+ NT1D = Nat unbal, 11-171M = 5+ major, 11-171NT = 15-172C = 6+C or 1-4-3-5 (if 2-4-2-5 is treated as balanced), 10-14.2D = 18-19 NT2H = 4-4-1-4 or 4-4-0-5, 11-16; or 3-4-1-5 11-14.2S = 10-14, 4S and 5C.2NT = 20-21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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