Adam1105 Posted October 27, 2017 Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 Are bridge signals different for trump contracts versus for NT contracts? Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted October 27, 2017 Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 Are bridge signals different for trump contracts versus for NT contracts? Thank you. They can be. What is more common is for leads to be different. Most people don't bother though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted October 27, 2017 Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 With some partners I play odd-even discards against trump contracts, Lavinthal against notrump. The logic for this is that in notrump we don't want to waste a card in our long suit to ask for a lead of that suit. So if we're mostly going to signal by discarding in suits we're not interested in, there's no reason to require it to be even. But in a trump contract, cards in long suits tend to be less useful later in the hand, since they'll just be ruffed, so we can afford to discard them if they help partner figure out our hand better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tramticket Posted October 27, 2017 Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 Are bridge signals different for trump contracts versus for NT contracts? Thank you. Yes Even if your signalling systems are the same you will make different choices. Take a trivial example, partner leads an ace at trick 1, you hold a small doubleton and you have agreed to signal attitude: in a trump contract you will often encourage hoping for a ruff; in a no trump contract you will generally discourage. Many will change the signalling system to reflect the different objectives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msjennifer Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 Most certainly signals can be played differently in a suit contract and a NT contract.It is for the pair to decide what is and what is not since their are a.variety of signals available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilG007 Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 Are bridge signals different for trump contracts versus for NT contracts? Thank you.The short answer to this question is it depends on partnership agreement There are so many methods of signalling it's vitalto establish beforehand what the method(s) shall be. And,of course,itsessential to remember what these agreements are when in play (!)Another good reason not to have too many conventions on your agreements card(!) :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Badger Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 Take a trivial example, partner leads an ace at trick 1, you hold a small doubleton and you have agreed to signal attitude: in a trump contract you will often encourage hoping for a ruff; in a no trump contract you will generally discourage. Sorry to take you to task, Tramticket, but that is slightly wrong. The classic way to deal with this situation is to have an agreement that the lead of an ace against a notrump contract asks partner to unblock an honour if holding one, and otherwise give a count signal. However, other players may play this differently, I admit, using the king as a lead to unblock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamijd Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 Can be, depending on partnership agreement. One very common difference is that many play some form of Smith (generally Reverse Smith) vs NT only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tramticket Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 Sorry to take you to task, Tramticket, but that is slightly wrong. The classic way to deal with this situation is to have an agreement that the lead of an ace against a notrump contract asks partner to unblock an honour if holding one, and otherwise give a count signal. However, other players may play this differently, I admit, using the king as a lead to unblock. Yes, I play king for count / unblock and ace for attitude. My point was meant be a more general one, that your objectives are often different in suit contracts compared with no-trump contracts (for example it would less common to unblock in a suit contract). Your signal will often be different and it is reasonable to structure your signalling system differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RD350LC Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Sorry to take you to task, Tramticket, but that is slightly wrong. The classic way to deal with this situation is to have an agreement that the lead of an ace against a notrump contract asks partner to unblock an honour if holding one, and otherwise give a count signal. However, other players may play this differently, I admit, using the king as a lead to unblock.I tend to consider an ace lead in NT as a request to unblock. But when I have Kxx for example, and there is QJxx on the board-partner does not like it when I unblock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 I tend to consider an ace lead in NT as a request to unblock. But when I have Kxx for example, and there is QJxx on the board-partner does not like it when I unblock.Then he shouldn't have led the ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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