helene_t Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 ♠Qxxx♥-♦Txxxxxxx♣x Matchpoints. You are red/white. LHO deals and opens 1♣ (1♣)-4♥-(5♣)-pass(pass)-x-(pass)-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyQuest Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 Can I redouble? No? Okay then, Pass it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 A (short) crossruff in the reds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanisW Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 What hands justify 4♥ followed by a double? Partner is very unlickely to look at 3 Aces or a club-stack. As he is on lead it also cannot be lead-directing asking for a ♦ lead... but maybe he wants to alert me to make an unorthodox play I'll pass hoping for1. A♥2. ruff Ps K♥3. lead ♦ or 1. A♦2. ruff P's A♥3. lead a ♦ regardsJW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 I'm passing, but I won't try anything fancy on defense. Partner knows if they have a diamond void. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Badger Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 And you thought you got lucky when RHO bid 5♣ :) Nothing better than pass and hope you can 'nick' three tricks off the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 ♠ Q x x x ♥ - ♦ T x x x x x x x ♣ xMatchpoints. You are red/white. LHO deals and opens 1♣(1♣)-4♥-(5♣)-pass(pass)-x-(pass)-?Pass seems normal, however, I like the convention where a double by a 4-level pre-emptor says "I have a very good suit. Please bid one more unless you have good defence". e.g.♠- ♥ A K Q x x x x x x x ♦ x x ♣ x With such an agreement, I would bid 5♦ or 5♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 Pass seems normal, however, I like the convention where a double by a 4-level pre-emptor says "I have a very good suit. Please bid one more unless you have good defence". e.g.♠- ♥ A K Q x x x x x x x ♦ x x ♣ x With such an agreement, I would bid 5♦ or 5♥. there's no such convention in the pass out seat. it's so you don't bid ahead of partner when he's got a penalty double. here partner already knows we don't have a penalty double, because we didn't make one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmnka447 Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 Without any special agreements, such as nige1 suggested, I pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted October 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 What hands justify 4♥ followed by a double? Good question. It wasn't discussed. It was me who bid 4♥ and then doubled. I had Jx-AKQxxxxx-K-AJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanisW Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Good question. It wasn't discussed. It was me who bid 4♥ and then doubled. I had Jx-AKQxxxxx-K-AJ. Of course 4♥ is not nonsensical, but I would've started with an X. You are a tad strong for 4♥ in my opinion, as partner has not acted yet. Opposite a passed hand, anything goes.Or is 4♥ only bid with the clear intention of making and 3♥ is your highest weak jump? Of course your LHO was pushed into bidding 5♣, but he non the less did so pretty much freely, as he did not have to bid at all. So partner has to be broke and there is definitely some distribution going on. Would not be too suprised if xxx,x,Ax,Kxxxxxx was put on the table and call myself lucky, that partner is the one with the void... (AKxx,Jxxx,QJ,Qxx with opener). As I am not sure where the 3rd trick should come from and would pull 5♦ from partner to 5♥(is P even allowed to bid 5♠?), I think you should decide between pass and 5♥. The exception being that X means: I think they can make it, if you have no defence (whatever that should be on the bidding so far?), so please pull the X without a trick. Now poor partner is looking on his Q 4th in ♠ and has to decide... X being a clear penalty-double only makes sence, if 4♥ is bid to make, imo. Definitely an interesting X to talk about with Partner. regards JW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Of course 4♥ is not nonsensical, but I would've started with an X. You are a tad strong for 4♥ in my opinion, as partner has not acted yet. Opposite a passed hand, anything goes.Or is 4♥ only bid with the clear intention of making and 3♥ is your highest weak jump? Of course your LHO was pushed into bidding 5♣, but he non the less did so pretty much freely, as he did not have to bid at all. So partner has to be broke and there is definitely some distribution going on. Would not be too suprised if xxx,x,Ax,Kxxxxxx was put on the table and call myself lucky, that partner is the one with the void... (AKxx,Jxxx,QJ,Qxx with opener). As I am not sure where the 3rd trick should come from and would pull 5♦ from partner to 5♥(is P even allowed to bid 5♠?), I think you should decide between pass and 5♥. The exception being that X means: I think they can make it, if you have no defence (whatever that should be on the bidding so far?), so please pull the X without a trick. Now poor partner is looking on his Q 4th in ♠ and has to decide... X being a clear penalty-double only makes sence, if 4♥ is bid to make, imo. Definitely an interesting X to talk about with Partner. regards JW I don't think the double is pure penalty, but rather values. 4H is often bid as both a weak pre-empt or a good hand where you just want to play there, and the double just shows the latter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bravejason Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 How about 5 spades, gambling that partner has hearts and spades? Might be a great call. Might go down, down, down, down... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 How about 5 spades, gambling that partner has hearts and spades? Might be a great call. Might go down, down, down, down... lol partner's overcalled 4H. he's not doubling for takeout. double shows a strong 4H bid with convertible values - aces. he wants you to choose between saving in 5H and trying to take 5C off. considering you've got a void in partner's suit it's not a tricky decision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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