moridar Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 So I lost $100 to my friend because of this.. http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?bbo=y&lin=pn%7Cbabamumu%2CRobot%2CRobot%2CRobot%7Cst%7C%7Cmd%7C4SAKQ42HK84DAKQ6C8%2CS6HAQJ2DT5CKJ6542%2CSJ9853H6DJ92CQT93%2CST7HT9753D8743CA7%7Csv%7CN%7Cah%7CBoard%202%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C2C%7Can%7CStrong%20two%20club%20--%2019%2B%20HCP%3B%2023%2B%20total%20points%3B%20forcing%20to%202N%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C2D%7Can%7C2D%20bid%20waiting%20--%20forcing%20to%202N%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C2S%7Can%7COpener%20s%20suit%20--%205%2B%20%21S%3B%2019%2B%20HCP%3B%2023%2B%20total%20points%3B%20forcing%20to%203S%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C3S%7Can%7C3%2B%20%21S%3B%205%2B%20total%20points%3B%20forcing%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C4D%7Can%7CCue%20bid%20--%201%2B%20%21C%3B%205%2B%20%21S%3B%20no%20%21CA%3B%20%21DA%3B%2025%2B%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C4N%7Can%7CBlackwood%20%28S%29%20--%203%2B%20%21S%3B%207%2B%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C5C%7Can%7CZero%20or%20three%20key%20cards%20--%201%2B%20%21C%3B%205%2B%20%21S%3B%20no%20%21CA%3B%20%21DA%3B%2025%2B%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C5S%7Can%7CSignoff%20--%203%2B%20%21S%3B%207%2B%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C6S%7Can%7CCorrect%20back%20-%203%2F4%20Key%20cards%20--%201%2B%20%21C%3B%205%2B%20%21S%3B%20no%20%21CA%3B%20%21DA%3B%2025%2B%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CCK%7C http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?bbo=y&lin=pn%7Cmoridar%2CRobot%2CRobot%2CRobot%7Cst%7C%7Cmd%7C4SAKQ42HK84DAKQ6C8%2CS6HAQJ2DT5CKJ6542%2CSJ9853H6DJ92CQT93%2CST7HT9753D8743CA7%7Csv%7CN%7Cah%7CBoard%202%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C2C%7Can%7CStrong%20two%20club%20--%2019%2B%20HCP%3B%2023%2B%20total%20points%3B%20forcing%20to%202N%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C2D%7Can%7C2D%20bid%20waiting%20--%20forcing%20to%202N%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C2S%7Can%7COpener%20s%20suit%20--%205%2B%20%21S%3B%2019%2B%20HCP%3B%2023%2B%20total%20points%3B%20forcing%20to%203S%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C4S%7Can%7C3%2B%20%21S%3B%204-%20HCP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cmc%7C12%7C If pictures too small, check the links.1st2nd Can someone explain what happened inside bots head? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patroclo Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 Maybe you have used a different convention card Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moridar Posted October 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 Maybe you have used a different convention card OH really? I thought Bot will always use this convention card: Bot's system which can be found here GIB System Notes. Could you explain where I can change or define which system bot should use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diana_eva Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 Bots always play the same system, but there was a small robot upgrade early today which might have caused this. For instance if one of you played the challenge before the upgrade, and the other played his boards after the upgrade, you'd have different robots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moridar Posted October 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 Bots always play the same system, but there was a small robot upgrade early today which might have caused this. For instance if one of you played the challenge before the upgrade, and the other played his boards after the upgrade, you'd have different robots. Thank you, it does explain what happenend. But it should be avoided as it doesnt make the game fair. Solution could be: When the challenge is created, it should define the bots instead of always get the newest one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diana_eva Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 Thank you, it does explain what happenend. But it should be avoided as it doesnt make the game fair. Well we have to upgrade the robots every now and then. Ask for a rematch, he would probably agree it's not fair if the purpose was to compare your skills and not who's got the luckiest bot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diana_eva Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 When was the slam hand played? Today, or yesterday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moridar Posted October 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 When was the slam hand played? Today, or yesterday? Yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diana_eva Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 Yesterday Look at the lead, how it went low low low and your friend won with the 8 Today's upgrade is supposed to fix this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moridar Posted October 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 Look at the lead, how it went low low low and your friend won with the 8 Today's upgrade is supposed to fix this. Nice, I accept if bot makes that kind of mistake as it applies on both tables.Thats only when bots do different thing at each table even the preconditions are same, would annoy me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babamumu Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 Hahaha it was No 100 dollars:) But just Challenge :) I had lost to you before too same because bot didnt Played right ;) now it is small help to me from bot ;) smile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Badger Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 Rule #1 Never gamble with friends. Rule #2 Never trust GIB's play or bidding. Rule #3 Play with friends. Much more enjoyable :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvcherry Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 Extremely thanks!I met similar situation too and it was a grand slam omfg! I saw bidding and first trick same, and declarer's second trick led different suit. -16 IMPs to me oops. Well we met another deal which was a game, bidding and lead same, declarer follow different card. +10 IMPs to me. and I still lost 6.Sorry my network is bad now so I can't post the deals.But the GIB really need update. Several times I see GIB made very silly mistakes, as declarer just surrender tricks and down, and as defender just unreasonably duck and surrender many tricks. I hope this is fixed now, or at least will be fixed in near future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvcherry Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 Extremely thanks!I met similar situation too and it was a grand slam omfg! I saw bidding and first trick same, and declarer's second trick led different suit. -16 IMPs to me oops. Well we met another deal which was a game, bidding and lead same, declarer follow different card. +10 IMPs to me. and I still lost 6.Sorry my network is bad now so I can't post the deals.But the GIB really need update. Several times I see GIB made very silly mistakes, as declarer just surrender tricks and down, and as defender just unreasonably duck and surrender many tricks. I hope this is fixed now, or at least will be fixed in near future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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