The_Badger Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 west has done too much twice. That's the most logical explanation I've seen written here. You don't go stayman-ing with a balanced 10 count opposite a weak NT, especially, no not even especially, never, if you know partner opens with 1NT with rubbish. The odds do not favour partner having a maximum NT, and/or a four card ♠ fit. As for doubling 3♣ that's pure madness. North is going to have a very strong hand at this vulnerability; with a lesser hand North would/could have doubled East's 2♣ Stayman bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msjennifer Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Was 1NT forcing? :)That’s a nice question indeed!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aawk Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 All depends what 2♣ means if it is stayman being invite or better (opposite a 12-14 1nt at least 10 HCP) west double must be penalty. Playing it as take out without the option for east to pass is a strange agreement in my opinion because we hold at least 22 HCP. If 2♣ can be less than a invite (garbage stayman) then west double could be (on agreement) take out and east pass is dangerous (3♣ made is to costly) and 3♥ would be my bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 All depends what 2♣ means if it is stayman being invite or better (opposite a 12-14 1nt at least 10 HCP) west double must be penalty. Playing it as take out without the option for east to pass is a strange agreement in my opinion because we hold at least 22 HCP. If 2♣ can be less than a invite (garbage stayman) then west double could be (on agreement) take out and east pass is dangerous (3♣ made is to costly) and 3♥ would be my bid. 3♥x could cost you more than 3♣x= here, you just don't know (and that's opposite the actual W hand). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yunling Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 East slight overbid but maybe its ok under certain agreement.West acted too much, obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dokoko Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 All depends what 2♣ means if it is stayman being invite or better (opposite a 12-14 1nt at least 10 HCP) west double must be penalty. Playing it as take out without the option for east to pass is a strange agreement in my opinion because we hold at least 22 HCP. If 2♣ can be less than a invite (garbage stayman) then west double could be (on agreement) take out and east pass is dangerous (3♣ made is to costly) and 3♥ would be my bid. Nothing depends on whether 2♣ shows invitational values initially. Double after Stayman promises an invitational or better hand with support for the unbid suits. Doubling with a weaker hand is telling the same story twice (as a weaker hand has to have support for both majors). East didn't double 3♣, which he could have done if interested in 3M. Playing West's double as penalty would be a stupid choice; it's takeout which East is free to convert if appropriate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 1N is fine. 2C is meh. Double is more meh. Pass was ok. But this doesnt look like a bad spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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