Control Precision 5

[Bermy]

Opening One Club.

 

Control Precision (Playing 1♣ openings the Bermy Wei.)

 

Many great versions of Precision and many great books have been written on the subject. The main problem has been over the last few years, it that there has become so many versions of Precision, that we no longer have a standard.

I am proposing my standard, simple, and quite easy to understand and try to stick to the basic principles of Wei.

Open 1♣ with all 16+ hands 4441 hands do not apply, see feed on Multi 2♦.

 

All our bidding rules now change to a new language, because opener is now in Control. If opener returns a No Trump bid, his hand is limited, and transfers control to blind partner, who will know how to handle simple No Trump balanced hands.

Responder can answer in the Negative 0-7 Hcp, or Positive*, this also shifts the language, Negative becomes a Natural language, while Positive starts asking, and taking Control. Looking for Slams now of course.

Asking bids are complicated and can be quite a labyrinth at times. The key is to ask the right question, at the right time, and give the right answers to those questions. If you go wrong here you will wonder about blind mad in this maze of avenues. However, a lot of fun and alternatives are available.

 

Goren suggested that you bid naturally, it works, simply use 4NT by Control Bidder to be RKC 0314 and carry on, I will not write any further on that.

An alternative method is to simply count key controls that are 2 for an Ace and 1 for a King, then bid up in steps when the Control Bid asking bid is made. The answer will give Control Bidder key information early, and I will not write anything further on that either.

 

Our asking bids always go up in simple steps, and if there is interference, DOPI and ROPI apply.

Reese gave us an alternative method to bidding the Impossible Negative, it works too, however it began a spiral of new standards in Precision. I will try stick to the original standards; however I have some ideas of my own too.

Control Precision+ introduces new modern ideas such as transfers and more, however I will ignore that for now for the sake of not complicating things too much. Soon I will begin a new feed on CP+

[Bermy]

Control Precision Opening Bids

Responses to One Club Openings.

We Open 1♣ when holding all hands that are 16 Hcp or more, that does not apply to 4441 hands or 22-24 Balanced Hands. When we open 1♣, the Opening Bidder becomes the Control Bidder. This might change if the Opener has a Balanced Hand, whereby Control is once again passed back to the responder. It is worth noting however that when the 1♣ opener has a 5 card minor with a Balanced Hand, that he can then choose to be either the Control Bidder or the Blind Bidder.

When opener rebids any No Trump Bid, he has a Balanced Hand and NOT a singleton or void in partner’s suit. Now Partner will take control using Stayman, and Major suit transfers, Break of Transfer and Mini Minor as in any One No Trump opening.

 

 

We Respond 1♦ as Negative holding 0-7 Hcp. With one important exception, when we have a 4441 hand of any shape.

 

 

Now both bidders bid on naturally, still in Control bidding of course. Competitive bidding may very well apply, however I will bypass that for now.

 

1♥….. shows ♥ , Safe to bid once at least.

1♠….. shows ♠ , Safe to bid once at least.

1NT …. 16-18 Hcp. Transfer of Control, Carry on bidding as you are used to.

2♣…..shows ♣, Safe to bid at least once.

2♦…..shows ♦, Safe to bid at least once.

2NT…. 19-21 Transfer of Control, Carry on bidding as you are used to.

Game Bids are to Play and all other bids are forcing to game.

 

Blind bidder will bid on naturally, and if 4441 will not have any trouble finding the right fit when placed into Control with a NT bid.

 

When blind bidder has4441 8Hcp. and more, he responds first with 1♦ negative, and then makes the impossible reverse “strong” bid, or known as the Impossible Negative. Wei suggested we simply splinter the singleton, ok with me, however I am suggesting we use the more complicated BOBS rule as we did in the Multi2 ♦. It works if you can remember all of it, but be careful of misusing it or you may find your confusing your Control bidder with some other bid. Both partners absolutely need to understand the Impossible negative in order to manage these 4441s properly.

[Bermy]

The Impossible Negative.

 

When holding 8 or more Hcp and a 4441 hand, after partner’s 1♣ opening, one finds no real bid to make. It is clearly neither a Balanced Hand nor has it a long suit to bid. However like all 4441 hands, if the shape and singleton can be identified, they can be bid very accurately, as Control Partner has the full picture of all thirteen cards.

The Impossible Negative is an unnecessary jump shift after the negative 1♦ response. We once again use BOB’s rule to relay this information, bidding the suit one step below the singleton. This allows Blind Bidder to jump shift into a lower suit when holding the singleton in Control Bidder’s first suit. A jump raise in preferred suit means 4 card support and a singleton in the higher ranking suit.

Once the singleton has been identified, all new asking bids by Control Bidder will be Alpha or Beta step bids.

When bidding in competition, Blind Bidder attempts to relay this information by cue bidding when the singleton is in the opponent’s suit. However it will be Blind Bidder’s responsibility to relay this type of hand, and to keep bidding open to the game level, if the room to reveal the hand has been limited.

 

Impossible Negative using BOBS rule. Beware of Conflict Bids.

 

1♣-1♦-1♥

 

2♠….. 4441 singleton ♣

3♣…. 4414 singleton ♦

3♦….. 4144 singleton ♥ No Support for♥

3♥….. Conflict Bid. Shows sub maximum with support.

3♠….. 4441 singleton ♠

 

1♣-1♦-1♠

 

3♣…. 4414 singleton ♦

3♦….. 4144 singleton ♥

3♥….. 1444 with no support.

3♠ ….. Conflict Bid. Shows sub maximum with support.

3NT….. 4441 singleton ♣. Will partner ever remember this one to not be a Natural Bid.

 

1♣-1♦-2♣

 

3♣…. Sub Maximum support for ♣

3♦….. 4144 singleton ♥

3♥….. 1444 singleton ♠

3♠ ….. 1444 singleton [minor]…..if you reverse this with 3NT with singleton ♦, it would work better.

3NT….. 4441 singleton ♣. Will partner ever remember this one to not be a Natural Bid?

 

1♣-1♦-2♦

 

3♣…. Sub Maximum support with ♣

3♦…..Sub Maximum support with ♦

3♥….. 1444 singleton ♠

3♠ ….. 1444 singleton ♣

3NT….. 4441 any singleton. Running out of space here avoid overbidding.

4♣…..4414 singleton ♦

4♦…..4144 singleton ♥

 

 

Can we use these bids with a negative 4441 hand? The short answer is NO

 

All other responses are considered to be Positive, but not necessarily 8 Hcp.

[Bermy]

1♣ Opening with a Positive response.

 

Responses are:

1♥ shows 8+ Hcp. With 5 or more♥

 

Control Bidder now bids

2♥ .....Alpha Asking Bid in trumps.

1♠.....Delta Asking Bid for information on ♠

1NT….16-18Hcp. Transfer of Control.

2♣….Delta Asking Bid for information on ♣

2♦….Delta Asking Bid for information on ♦

2NT….19-21 Hcp. Transfer of Control.

3NT…. To Play I guess.

That’s all the bids you may need.

 

Responses are:

1♠ shows 8+ Hcp.

 

Control Bidder now bids

2♠ .....Alpha Asking Bid in trumps. If Control Bidder has any sneaky reason for not using this as trumps Blind Partner must trust him, but Control Bidder must very careful of not confusing bids after that.

2♥.....Delta Asking Bid for information on ♥

1NT….16-18Hcp. Transfer of Control.

2♣….Delta Asking Bid for information on ♣

2♦….Delta Asking Bid for information on ♦

2NT….19-21 Hcp. Transfer of Control.

3NT…. To Play I guess.

Any new suit after an Alpha Bid or Delta Bid by Control Bidder will now become a Beta Bid.

Tip: “Never ask a question, when you cannot stand the answer”.

 

 

When the Responders bids are:

1NT (8-10) or 2NT (11-13) or 3NT (14-15) or 4NT 16+ Balanced,,,,,,, now Gamma Asking Bids now apply.

Any new suit by Control Bidder is a Beta Bid, after the Gamma.

 

Responding Two No Trumps to One Club.

 

Bidding 2No Trump in response to 1♣ opening is positive, is absolutely Game Forcing. Its shows any Balanced Hand with 11-13 Hcp. or 16+ Hcp.

 

The 1♣ Opener now has 3 options.

1) Use Stayman.

2) Ask about any new suite using the Gamma Asking Bid. After the Gamma Bid, Beta Bids may be used.

3) Bid the contract into a No Trump game, with 2NT not being forcing.

Should Blind Partner have 16+ Hcp, he shows this by overbidding at the next available bid.

 

Responding Three No Trumps to One Club.

 

Bidding 3No Trump in response to 1♣ opening is positive, is absolutely Game Forcing. Its shows any Balanced Hand with 14-15 Hcp.

The 1♣ Opener now has 4 options.

1) Pass, this will work in most cases where both hands are flat.

2) Ask about any new suite using the Gamma Asking Bid at the 4 level. After the Gamma Bid, Beta Bids may be used.

3) Use 4 Clubs as Stayman.

4) Bid on to a slam.

Should Blind Partner have 16+ Hcp, he shows this by overbidding at the next available bid.

 

 

 

 

When the responses are 2 of Minor:

Support is an Alpha asking Bid,

New Suit is a Delta asking Bid,

Second question is a Beta Asking Bid.

[Bermy]

Alpha Asking Bid

 

Alpha steps are an asking bid used by Control Bidder in order to explore the possibility of slam when game seems to be certain. They are used when 1♣ Opening and a positive answer triggers it. This bid confirms Blind Bidder’s first suit, and asks about the Aces, Kings and Queens. The Alpha Bid may be used as the first asking bid, or may be used after a Delta Bid instead of a Beta Bid.

 

1 Step….. 5/6 card suit with no major picture card. No Honours

2 Steps….. 5 card suit with 1 picture card. 1 from the top 3 honours

3 Steps….. 5 card suit with 2 picture cards. 2 from the top 3 honours

4 Steps….. 6 card suit with 1 picture card. 1 from the top 3 honours

5 Steps….. 6 card suit with 2 picture cards from top three.

6 steps….. A K and Q in suit solid.

 

012 123….. Makes the Alpha bid easy to remember.

All asking bids after the Alpha is Beta.

 

Beta Asking Bid

 

Beta steps are used after an Alpha Bid or after a Delta Bid or a Gamma Bid. The Beta Bid asks Blind Bidder to show the holding in a side suit. This shows Control Bidder the dangers in those side suits before going to a slam. The Beta Bid can be asked twice if space allows. Beta Bids cannot be the first asking bid.

 

1 Step….. No 1st or 2nd control….. Qxx or worse, or doubleton or worse

2 Steps….. 2nd round control….. Kx or singleton

3 Steps….. 2nd and 3rd round control….. KQ or singleton King

4 Steps….. 1st round control ….. Ace or void

5 steps….. 1st and second round control….. Ace and King or Ace singleton

 

 

Gamma Asking Bid

 

Gamma Steps are used in 1♣ Positive, whenever the Blind Bidder has shown a Balanced Hand, After the 1NT or 2NT or 3NT response, Clubs will always be Staymen for a four card major. Any new suit bid by the Control Bidder is a Gamma Bid and not a transfer.

In Control Precision Plus, the 1♣/1♥ the same rules apply. A new suit is a Gamma Bid and 2♣ is Stayman.

1 Step….. Minimum support Doubleton xx

2 Steps….. Doubleton with a pic. Xx, or Three card support no pic, xxx

3 Steps….. Three card support one pic, Xxx

4 Steps….. Three card support two pics, XXx

5 Steps….. Three card support all three pics

With 4 card support add one step. After any Gamma Bid, next suit asked by Control Bidder will be a Beta.

 

 

Delta Asking Bid

 

Delta Steps are used in 1♣ Positive, whenever the Control Bidder wants to ask Blind Bidder about the length and strength of a specific suit. Bidding a new suit triggers the Delta Bid.

1 Step

Unbalanced hand with more information to give and no tolerance for Control Bidder’s suit. This triggers the One Step One Step relay, whereby the Control Bidder asks for more information by bidding the next step up.

2 Steps

8-10 Hcp with doubleton support. Balanced Hand.

3 Steps

11+ Hcp with doubleton support. Balanced Hand.

4 Steps

Three or more cards support.

5 Steps

Interest in slam, whereby the Control Bidder asks for more information by bidding the next step up. This triggers the One Step One Step relay, so that the Blind Bidder can show an interesting shape.

 

Any new suite now by Control Bidder is now either a Beta Bid, or an Alpha Bid.

Repeat of the Delta bid (if not a game bid) is asking about trump holding. This is answered with one step for no pics and a further step for each pic card in suite.

 

Responses to any jump (weak pre-empt style at 2 or 3 level longer)

Control Bidder is dealing with a completely different type of hand here as it is weaker than the above hands (below 7Hcp.), so in line with our little dance, I have devised some steps for these situations, that I have called Freds Stairs. One must be aware that apace is limited, so beware of overbidding. All asking bids after Freds Stairs will be a Beta Bid.

[Bermy]

Responding Two Hearts to One Club

 

This 2♥ response to 1♣ Opening shows 0-7 Hcp. with a 7 card suit, or 5-7 Hcp. with a 6 card suit.

This is a relatively strong bid, and can reach Game or Slam with the right fit. We use Fred’s Stairs to ask the Blind Bidder his exact holding in the long suite and where the high card points are located, by bidding the next suite up the line. This One step relay bid takes all priority over any natural bids.

Should the Control Bidder decide not to accept the long suit, any new bid will be considered as Unsafe to Bid.

 

Responding Two Spades to One Club

 

This 2♠ response to 1♣ Opening shows 0-7 Hcp. with a 7 card suit, or 5-7 Hcp. with a 6 card suit.

This is a relatively strong bid, and can reach Game or Slam with the right fit. We use Fred’s Stairs to ask the Blind Bidder his exact holding in the long suite and where the high card points are located, by bidding the next suite up the line. This One step relay bid takes all priority over any natural bids.

Should the Control Bidder decide not to accept the long suit, any new bid will be considered as Unsafe to Bid.

 

Responding Three Clubs to One Club

 

This 3♣ response to 1♣ Opening shows 4-7 Hcp. with a 7 card suit, or 6-7 Hcp. with a 6 card suit.

This is a relatively strong bid, and can reach Game or Slam with the right fit. We use Fred’s Stairs to ask the Blind Bidder his exact holding in the long suite and where the high card points are located, by bidding the next suite up the line. This One step relay bid takes all priority over any natural bids.

4♣ at any point in the bidding will be Minorwood.

Should the Control Bidder decide not to accept the long suit, any new bid will be considered as Unsafe to Bid.

 

Responding Three Diamonds to One Club

 

This 3♦ response to 1♣ Opening shows 4-7 Hcp. with a 7 card suit, or 6-7 Hcp. with a 6 card suit.

This is a relatively strong bid, and can reach Game or Slam with the right fit. We use Fred’s Stairs to ask the Blind Bidder his exact holding in the long suite and where the high card points are located, by bidding the next suite up the line. This One step relay bid takes all priority over any natural bids.

4♦ at any point in the bidding will be Minorwood.

Should the Control Bidder decide not to accept the long suit, any new bid will be considered as Unsafe to Bid.

 

 

Fred’s Stairs. Used for weak long responses below 7Hcp.

 

Asking Bids

Fred’s Stairs is the use of steps when Blind Bidder has a long six card suit and less than 8Hcp in response to 1♣ openings. Bidding 2 NT, allows Control Bidder to see exactly where the Blind Bidders high card points are, since it is limited to seven high card points.

Fred’s Stairs is triggered by a One Step DIPTO relay in competition. Therefore Double triggers Fred’s Stairs and pass asks Blind Partner to double.

The Blind Bidder responds with

 

1step ….. 0-4 Hcp with a 6 card suit

2steps ….. 0-4 Hcp with 7 card suit

3steps ….. 5-7 Hcp with 0-1 Hcp in Trump suit

4steps ….. 5-7 Hcp with 2-4 Hcp in Trump suit

5steps ….. 5-7 Hcp with 5-7 Hcp in Trump suit

 

By simple calculation, Control Bidder can see what high card points are in bid suit. Any new bid by Control Bidder will now be a Beta Bid.

[Bermy]

DOPI and ROPI

 

Double 0 Pass 1 Redouble 0 Pass 1

 

These bids are used if our Opponents bid during RKC 0314, Minorwood and Voidwood. They are almost the same as the DIPTO and RIPTO bids, but are used to count the Aces and Kings after an Overcall. Double (Redouble) shows 0 or 3 Aces from 5 and Pass is 1 or 4 aces from 5. The next bid up is 3 steps showing 2 from 5 aces, while 4 steps is 2/5 Aces with the Queen of Trumps.

With the first 2 steps being negative (weak scenario) this also gives the Control Partner the option to double the Opponent’s bid, should he believe that it will be more rewarding.

 

DIPTO and RIPTO

Asking Bids

Double 1 Pass TwO Redouble 1 Pass TwO

We use these bids whenever there is interference over our Steps or Asking Bids. This means that if the Opposition bid over our bids, we bid double to show One Step, Pass to show 2 Steps and the next suite up to show 3 steps, and so on. These bids are made by the Blind Bidder, after being asked to answer the bid, but has had to deal with an opponent’s bid interfering.

With the first 2 steps being negative (weak scenario) this also gives the Control Partner the option to double the Opponent’s bid, should he believe that it will be more rewarding.

 

Rkc 0314

Asking Bids

In Control Precision we use the standard for of Roman Key Card Blackwood 4No Trumps Bid. If there is an agreed trump suite, then the King of Trumps becomes the 5th ace. Should the trump suit be unsure, we count the king of the last suit bid by the Partnership. We then can bid 5No Trumps to ask for Kings providing the partnership is holding all 5 aces. The king of trumps must not be bid again as a King in response to the 5NT bid.

1 step 0 or 3Aces from 5

2 steps 1 or 4 Aces from 5

3 steps 2 aces from 5 without holding the Queen of trumps.

4 steps 2 aces and the Queen of trumps

In competitive Bidding, DIPTO and RIPTO to convey information over the opponents bid. If Control Bidder prefers to make 5NT the final Contract, he simply bids the unbid suit asking for a transfer to 5NT.

 

Other methods may be used.

Minorwood and Voidwood are also employed.

 

Voidwood

 

The object of Voidwood is to establish how many first round controls we have outside the bid suite. So, holding a void in a suite, the Control bidder needs to establish the controls of the other 3 suites. He does so by asking Blackwood at the 5 levels, in the suite of which he is void. The rules are the same as RKC 0314/5, and you bid in steps from the asking suite. However, you disregard your Ace of that suite, and bid it as a King instead.

 

Minorwood

 

Once a Minor suit has been established as the trump suit, then a rebid on the four level of the Minor trump suit triggers the Roman Keycard Blackwood Asking conventional method. The responses indicate the number of Key Cards exactly as in Roman Keycard Blackwood.

[Bermy]

:P Phew, now that's more complicated than Lebensohl, isn't it? There is much more to discuss, including bidding in Competition and more advanced bids like Transfers, Omegas, Modern NT bidding and yes wait for it, Control Precision for when we are overcall bidding. New ideas and concepts that may delight you.

 

Please do not be afraid to ask any questions,I love good questions, stick to the subject and mind your manners please, and please report any typos.

 

I am aware alternative methods are available, however this is my style, all planned and designed for Control Precision.

 

When bidding in steps beware of over asking and overbidding. All steps are designed weakest answer first strongest last, however you must never ask the question, if you cannot stand the answer.

 

I guess I will now have to answer question like "What happens if.......? or What do I do when.........?" I really do not mind♥.

 

I have tried to resolve all conflicts of bids, however if you see any, open it for discussion and lets us revue.

 

I have now compiled a complete road map of how I play Wei, and propose we use some of these ideas to promote the Universal language of C.C. Wei, and to get more players playing Precision again

 

Now we have tuned up this old V8 lets see what happens when we apply a Turbo. B-)

 

:rolleyes:

[Zelandakh]

Almost all modern version of Precision have dropped the impossible negative in favour of the impossible positive. In this vein, might I suggest you switch your 2M and 1♦ -> jump sequences? (typical would be 2♥ = red singleton; 2♠ = black singleton, although other structures are possible). That in turn might suggest some further refinements. Other sensible suggestions, such as using transfer responses or taking the first step Beta as a general (Frivolous) slam try, are probably (rightly) beyond the design goals. Aside from that, this seems to be the strongest part of the system you have presented here, albeit not without its issues. What I have not yet seen are the key advantages that the system offers over the alternatives, which is disappointing as some serious weaknesses are apparent. Could you perhaps point out where you think the key advantages are over other mainstream systems such as 2/1 and Meckwell Lite?

[Bermy]

Almost all modern version of Precision have dropped the impossible negative in favour of the impossible positive. In this vein, might I suggest you switch your 2M and 1♦ -> jump sequences? (typical would be 2♥ = red singleton; 2♠ = black singleton, although other structures are possible). That in turn might suggest some further refinements. Other sensible suggestions, such as using transfer responses or taking the first step Beta as a general (Frivolous) slam try, are probably (rightly) beyond the design goals. Aside from that, this seems to be the strongest part of the system you have presented here, albeit not without its issues. What I have not yet seen are the key advantages that the system offers over the alternatives, which is disappointing as some serious weaknesses are apparent. Could you perhaps point out where you think the key advantages are over other mainstream systems such as 2/1 and Meckwell Lite?

 

Firstly, yes I am aware of 2 methods to the IN, We have always preferred this method, when using BOBS rule, as it is more consistent and more efficient, it combines the language with Freds Stairs nicely. I am aware of your argument in favor of the reverse, and don't mind what you choose. These hands are so rare. I had to make a decisions,as I am trying to standardize and therefore will continue my way. Perhaps I can write a chapter on alternatives, but maybe best left to you.

 

As for comparison with other systems, well I need no argument. Try it, let the results at the table tell you which is best. All systems work best when both partners are playing the same way.

[Vampyr]

Bermy, it strikes me that you are trying to reinvent the wheel. There are many versions of Precision/Strong Club/Polish Club et cetera out there. Many include relays, Multi 2♦, Lucas Twos, and some have ideas that are more effective than yours.

 

What innovations are you bringing to the table that people will want to incorporate into their system, or even switch from their current system to yours?

[Bermy]

Bermy, it strikes me that you are trying to reinvent the wheel. There are many versions of Precision/Strong Club/Polish Club et cetera out there. Many include relays, Multi 2♦, Lucas Twos, and some have ideas that are more effective than yours.

 

What innovations are you bringing to the table that people will want to incorporate into their system, or even switch from their current system to yours?

 

:blink: Maybe the Universal Standardization of Wei. Imagine if someone could translate these notes into Chinese. Then I would be able to play bridge like this almost anywhere in the world, including Beijing. :o

 

You can translate Polish Club any way you like for me, perhaps even into English, yes I have references thank you.

All systems have its merits, we have tournaments to resolve these issues.

However, I am unlikely to ever want to learn anything else, other than to play against.

[Vampyr]

So you are hoping that all Precision players will adopt your system, purely for your own convenience? Wow!

[Bermy]

So you are hoping that all Precision players will adopt your system, purely for your own convenience? Wow!

 

 

I have asked for questions, that apply to the subject. I am amazed how few I am getting, does all of this make so much sense to all you guys out there? :unsure:

 

I have been playing CP for years(with great success when playing with the right partners), many have asked me to publish it over the years. Now I have done so for the benefit of them, not for the benefit of stroking your ego, however, you repaired that. I have said so often, this is how you standardize a language, play any way you like with your partner, but universally it has to be standard. If I were to standardize any language for playing Precision, it would be Wei, a bidding system already translated into many languages and discussed in Asia for years.

 

I have not called my system Wei Precision as that would be a plagiarize. I have made variations, and have not stuck to the original, therefore it would have to be my version, with its own name. This is a modern tune up, and for the benefit of those who are interested. If you have no interest, I do not know why you bother to read it, perhaps you want ready yourself, to play against us, Thats OK. B-)

[Bermy]

So you are hoping that all Precision players will adopt your system, purely for your own convenience? Wow!

 

 

Ha, now I suppose now if I book a game at a Hong Kong club, all I have to do is find a partner and get them to read these notes on BBO forum.

 

Thank you Mr. Wei, the smart way. :D :D

[Vampyr]

Well, perhaps you could explain why exactly you want there to be a "standard" version of Precision -- and would you be satisfied if it turned out to be someone else's version instead of your own? In any case, that ship has sailed.

 

And what's wrong with that? Surely systems diversity is a good thing, and you, as a system tinkerer yourself, should agree with this more than me st people.

[Zelandakh]

Well, perhaps you could explain why exactly you want there to be a "standard" version of Precision

There essentially is at the highest level - Meckwell Lite. This is a good reason for comparing CP against that as well as 2/1. Noone is going to invest the time to learn and play methods without some indication that the result might be worth it. And as I previously wrote, the presentation style makes it quite difficult to spot any benefits at all, so I find refusing to answer that question rather strange.

[Vampyr]

Where can I find a detailed write-up of Meckwell Lite? Also is there a simplified version so one can get started quickly?

[straube]

Where can I find a detailed write-up of Meckwell Lite? Also is there a simplified version so one can get started quickly?

 

http://www.bridgewithdan.com/systems/index.html

[Zelandakh]

Where can I find a detailed write-up of Meckwell Lite? Also is there a simplified version so one can get started quickly?

To get started a couple of links to a basic outline of the simplest form are here and here. And here is an old BBF thread to a slightly more complicated version. If you were to decide to play it seriously though, I would suggest buying the books that straube linked. Additionally, my understanding is that Dan offers courses on the system and the (admittedly limited) feedback I have heard from students has been universally positive.

[foobar]

To get started a couple of links to a basic outline of the simplest form are here and here. And here is an old BBF thread to a slightly more complicated version. If you were to decide to play it seriously though, I would suggest buying the books that straube linked. Additionally, my understanding is that Dan offers courses on the system and the (admittedly limited) feedback I have heard from students has been universally positive.

Oh BTW, having gone through an early draft copy, a shameless plug for Dan's book if you want to study Meckwell Lite :D -- highly recommended.

[Vampyr]

Oh BTW, having gone through an early draft copy, a shameless plug for Dan's book if you want to study Meckwell Lite :D -- highly recommended.

 

Does Dan have a surname?

[sfi]

Does Dan have a surname?

 

Dan Neill. You can find lots of system stuff, both free and for purchase, at www.bridgewithdan.com. Worth knowing about.

[Vampyr]

Dan Neill. You can find lots of system stuff, both free and for purchase, at www.bridgewithdan.com. Worth knowing about.

 

Cheers

[Bermy]

Dan Neill. You can find lots of system stuff, both free and for purchase, at www.bridgewithdan.com. Worth knowing about.

 

 

I find it absolutely disgusting that you should use my feed to sell your own agenda. My notes are available for free and done in response to requests for more information. I previously asked all wankers to stay off my feeds if they were not interested in the subject, seems like you did not get the message.

 

You system, as I read it, is not Precision at all, but rather a new strong club system. It has and will never have any universal appeal, and therefore will never rival Precision. Wei Precision is played almost everywhere in the world, yours I have no intention of promoting. :angry: