gwnn Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 I don't want to link any hands as it would constitute a spoiler of the weekly instant, but I had 2 different hands where the robots did something else vs me than every other opponent. This is annoying! Thanks for the updates but please pay attention to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2005 Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 This could just be normal. The robot that isn't advanced uses a smaller number of hands for it's simulations. So Gib can come up with different solutions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted August 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 The weekly free robots are advanced, I'm pretty sure I've read this somewhere. And I'm playing these weekly free's very often and I think this is the first time I notice this, so I think something went wrong this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerriman Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 Even if they're not advanced, I'm pretty sure the robots are seeded to ensure they run the same simulations at different tables (which is why a slightly different discard changes the simulations and the results, but the same play has always lead to identical results). Feels like the old version of GIB may not have rolled out to everyone playing the free weekly somehow. Edit - actually, this probably makes sense. I think all instant tournaments use deals from past tournaments; otherwise if you're the first person to play, you'd never see any results. So the people being compared to didn't play it as the free weekly; they played it before GIB was upgraded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted August 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 I kinda assumed this was the case, but BBO has previously announced that all instant tournaments would always be played with the same version as the past players. This could be a bit hard to ensure in the case of the weekly free instant, I know. I just wanted to explain just how annoying it is when you get screwed by a version mismatch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigbyrigz Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 IT IS INDEED DOING THIS DASTARDLY THING EVEN WHEN YOU PAY!!!! I started playing 8 board 15 person mini 25cents BBO tourneys matchpoints this month. Today when I was 1st after 7 Boards and dropped to 8th after a DISASTEROUS Board 8 for no justified reason, I decided to Fully Investigate. None Vul West Dealer Robot in North holds: KJx QT9xxx QT Jx 14 TIMES this robot opened 2H after West passes ON the 15th time, as MY ROBOT, it PASSED, leading to an extremely different auction of course! And of course I have reported it. This is VERY ALRMING! Comments Please!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigbyrigz Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 I will report IF?WHAT BBO replies to me. But I have done some thinking (uh oh) and recalling. In the beginning I noticed the names of the other players in the final rankings, and saw what masterpoint awards they received. Lately though, I see they all say N/A. (it used to show me .60 .42 .21 .18 etc) Maybe due to time of day, how often I play, or such, BBO is having a hard time coming up with same-Robot-version-comparisons! Besides the great point above as to what result will show for the first board finished, I had wondered how you can play fast or stop and slow and it still works fine in a functional timing sense. The BBO tourney God is obviously using previously played deals, when it chooses to/needs to. When the deals selected have a different GIB version in play, AS IS CLEAR HERE, it is tremendously unfair AND SOMETHING SHOULD BE DONE/ NOT SURE WHAT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigbyrigz Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 More to the above. I got curious, so started checking other boards samePAY Mini Tourney from today. Auction goes 1N p 3N. Robot on lead has QTxxx AJx Jx Txx On one deal the GIB leads a Spade.On another deal it leads J of D. Same exact 1N - 3N auction. Huge difference in the result. How can these tourneys be fair with such goings on? And we pay $ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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