Legalities of timewasting

[weejonnie]

I suppose that if the CoC specified 50/50 for all boards taken away then that is what must happens - and by entering the contest you accept the results.

 

You can ask the Director to award a PP for unduly slow play under law 90B2

 

You can probably ask for a ruling under law 74 A2 AND 74 A3 (extraneous action that might affect enjoyment of the game/ failure to maintain even tempo.)

[Vampyr]

There's nothing unethical about hoping for a tell from LHO when you lead the Jack. But if you don't notice a hitch, you're back to having to guess. I suppose a good player should anticipate this, and have made up his mind about how he'll play if he doesn't notice anything. But I think there's some psychology going on here -- we tend to postpone tough decisions as long as possible. I'm pretty sure I've occasionally gone into the tank a bit after I've led instead of before, and I may even have noticed it a few times when operating vugraph with national/world champions playing.

 

I disagree with you. I am disappointed that you believe that forcing the opponents to sit there for several minutes under stress, afraid that anything they do or don't do might be a tell, is OK.

[barmar]

I disagree with you. I am disappointed that you believe that forcing the opponents to sit there for several minutes under stress, afraid that anything they do or don't do might be a tell, is OK.

Is it really much less stressful if they make you sit there for several minutes BEFORE the lead, possibly looking for a tell then? Ideally they should just get it over with and guess (that's what I usually do), but not everyone thinks that way.

 

And what about if they're reacting to an opponent's lead? LHO leads a small card, there's QTx in dummy and Axx in hand, or something like that. Maybe they should have planned ahead for what they'd do if someone led through this combination, but there are lots of things to think about when planning a hand, and things change as you learn more about the hand. At the point where they force your decision, you may have to go into the tank trying to remember all the cards that were played, how they relate to what you know from the auction, etc.

[Vampyr]

Is it really much less stressful if they make you sit there for several minutes BEFORE the lead, possibly looking for a tell then? Ideally they should just get it over with and guess (that's what I usually do), but not everyone thinks that way.

 

Before the lead you don't know what they're going to lead, so there is one pressure of any sort.

 

And what about if they're reacting to an opponent's lead? LHO leads a small card, there's QTx in dummy and Axx in hand, or something like that. Maybe they should have planned ahead for what they'd do if someone led through this combination, but there are lots of things to think about when planning a hand, and things change as you learn more about the hand. At the point where they force your decision, you may have to go into the tank trying to remember all the cards that were played, how they relate to what you know from the auction, etc.

 

How likely is this to be deliberate? Perhaps 2% at most? Compared to 100%?