Cyberyeti Posted August 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 I don't think misfit can be the case in this situation because opponents have 8 card suit at least so we will find ours surely. The second thing is I play this double as 10+ HCP with at least 5-4 in unbid suits with no fit or any 12+ balanced and that's why i'm considering this pass as forcing since we are having strength advantage. Which double ? 1♥-(2♣)-X as 10+ you're getting stolen from a lot, I need to X on a 4243 8. Also the heart is 4+ cards not 5 in the Acol type system I play, so the shape restricions you play don't work as well. Ops 8 card fit is no guarantee we have one, also we probably open lighter than you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapi Blas Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Which double ? 1♥-(2♣)-X as 10+ you're getting stolen from a lot, I need to X on a 4243 8. Also the heart is 4+ cards not 5 in the Acol type system I play, so the shape restricions you play don't work as well. Ops 8 card fit is no guarantee we have one, also we probably open lighter than you do. Well obviously in ACOL system it must work differently. But im not really getting stolen though. If we don't have a major suit fit and i don't have any other long suit and less than 10 HCP im ok with passing while vulnerable. Not vulnerable ill just bid any 5 card suit on 2 level with 6+ HCP and good shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamJson Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 Even if you have no agreements in this sequence 4♥ is a horrible bid. It should show like a minimum hand with 7-8♥. These are the rebids i use in my partnership in this sequence: Pas - forcing since my partners double should be showing some valuesDbl - obviously not penalty, our oponents found their long suit, showing extra values3♦ - 5-5 shape 3♥ - 6♥ minimum 3♠ - asks for ♣ stoper3NT - ♣ stoper, not minimum, with stonger hand and a stoper you should double4♣ - Splinter strong hand, pretty much promises 6♥4♦ - very strong hand with 6+♥, almost ACOL, no ♣ shortage4♥ - 7-8♥ minimum hand, too strong to open 4♥( we open 4M with even 7 HCP)Maybe you get dealt better hands than I seem to get, but you seem to be using lots of bids to show big hands. For me, 3D and 3S would just be competing. Like another poster I have sympathy with the 4H bidder, especially if playing with a partner with whom you have no detailed agreements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted August 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 Like another poster I have sympathy with the 4H bidder, especially if playing with a partner with whom you have no detailed agreements. We've played together for 20+ years, while we have no specific agreements in this sequence, the general principle that big hands bid slowly is well established. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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