Pick a suit. Any suit.

[smerriman]

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I should have bid 3♠ the first time, but somehow this happened..

[johnu]

I like this :) I've seen 1-1 fits before but this is the first 0-1 fit.

[Stephen Tu]

I've played a 1-0 fit with a human partner. Undoubled though. Passed hand 1s-4h splinter, partner with stiff ace didn't think opps would be silent with 12 cd fit though still puzzled why I wouldn't open some number of hearts to begin with. Took awhile before the defense attacked trumps and everyone except partner started laughing uncontrollably after I pitched, disturbing the tournament. Didn't even turn out to be complete bottom as non vul and a few had bought the hand in hearts.

 

Never played a 0-0 though. Actually I can't remember playing a hand where any side had all the trumps.

[Bermy]

I can comment almost on every article in the robot discussion.

 

"Robot partners cannot be trusted"

 

If the robot has "any" view of South's hand. What hand would South have to have to want to want to play in 4 hearts redoubled? Surely the North robot can read South's explanation that it was a cue bid? North is the control bidder at the last bid.......how can pass be an option? Does the robot assume that the original bid of 4 hearts was natural despite the explanation? No something is very wrong here!

 

Explanation of 4 hearts "Cue Bid 13+ total points forcing to 4NT"

 

So what is wrong here?

 

The bidding logic?

The bidding system?

The robot understanding of a cue bid?

The explanation?

 

I once used to teach beginners, and when they didn't quite know what to do to a take out.......they passed.

I rather suspect that is is the problem here too.

[smerriman]

I can comment almost on every article in the robot discussion.

You could, but it wouldn't be very helpful.

 

I rather suspect that is is the problem here too.

That is exactly what (basic) GIB does. If it doesn't have a rule telling it what to do, it passes. The purpose of these threads is to get these bidding holes fixed.

[Bermy]

And may I add a second thought on a point I'm trying to make.

 

1000's of new and experienced members are paying and playing with these robots every day now.

 

They are very popular, and if I must admit, a lot of fun.

 

However if a robot partner does this to you in say in imp tourney, the whole tourney is ruined and you may as well withdraw as there will never be recovery from this so you have wasted your money. No refunds are available.

 

Players are paying for these robots, surely they deserve better.

[Bermy]

You could, but it wouldn't be very helpful.

 

 

That is exactly what (basic) GIB does. If it doesn't have a rule telling it what to do, it passes. The purpose of these threads is to get these bidding holes fixed.

 

No sooner have I finished writing my reply when this happens in the new daylong..........again (sigh)

 

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More beginner bridge? Another hole to fix?