dickiegera Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 Playing walsh over a 1♣ opening what bids are to be alerted? 1♦? What if diamond bidder has less than 4 cards in diamond suit? 1 Major? After 1♦ bid does 1NT [ may have a 4 card Major] need to be alerted? Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 Playing walsh over a 1♣ opening what bids are to be alerted? 1♦? What if diamond bidder has less than 4 cards in diamond suit? 1 Major? After 1♦ bid does 1NT [ may have a 4 card Major] need to be alerted? Thank youPlaying Walsh, you bypass 1♦ to bid your major when you're weak. This does not require an alert, even if you're bypassing a six card diamond suit. If you bid diamonds naturally (and a three card diamond suit is "natural") then no alert is required. A natural 1NT rebid does not require an alert, even if it bypasses a four card major. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 Tonight in the midnight zip, I opened 1♣, and my partner (not a regular partner -- we play about one midnight game every NABC) bid 1♦ with 3=3=2=5 shape. He was in between the strengths required for preemptive and inverted raises, and his majors were poor so he preferred to get me to bid 1NT (which I did, having 4=3=3=3 shape). I suppose if we were a regular partnership and we have sufficient experience with this kind of bid the 1♦ bid should be alerted. But I was just as surprised as everyone else when he put down the dummy with only 2 diamonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 Tonight in the midnight zip, Back in my midnight days standard Directing equipment was 2 bottles of wine. Was there a Director call for failure to alert? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 Back in my midnight days standard Directing equipment was 2 bottles of wine. Was there a Director call for failure to alert?Of course not. The opponents were playing an incredibly weird system: no artificial bids at all. It's probably not ACBL legal, since there's no specified range for 1NT, you bid it if you think you can take 7 tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 Of course not. The opponents were playing an incredibly weird system: no artificial bids at all. It's probably not ACBL legal, since there's no specified range for 1NT, you bid it if you think you can take 7 tricks.Sure, but also you think you can do that before the opponents take seven tricks. Note also that however many tricks you think you can take, an unbalanced hand cannot bid a natural 1NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2005 Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 I opened 1♣, and my partner bid 1♦ with 3=3=2=5 shape. He was in between the strengths required for preemptive and inverted raises, and his majors were poor so he preferred to get me to bid 1NT (which I did, having 4=3=3=3 shape).Even not playing Walsh you could get stuck with 3=3=2=5.In standard there is no forcing raise for clubs so what are you supposed to do with 20+ hcp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bravejason Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 Even not playing Walsh you could get stuck with 3=3=2=5.In standard there is no forcing raise for clubs so what are you supposed to do with 20+ hcp? I'd check my horoscope and then choose among 5C, 6C, 3NT, or 6NT. Alternately, I might jump shift in a major and hope partner doesn't have four cards in it so I can show the clubs on my next turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 Even not playing Walsh you could get stuck with 3=3=2=5.In standard there is no forcing raise for clubs so what are you supposed to do with 20+ hcp?All bidding systems have holes. But this is why inverted minors are so popular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpenz Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 max hardy used to have what he called a hasty heart, bidding a 3 card major Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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