ahydra Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 [hv=pc=n&w=st3hkt53dk9854cq6&e=sak954h9762datca9&d=n&v=b&b=13&a=p1s2cd(negative, should have 4!H)p2hppp]266|200[/hv] IMPs, club standard opps, EW playing 5cM weak NT. Generally one wants to bid a lot when vul at IMPs but East didn't like her hearts while West didn't like his CQ. Who should've been bolder? The opps found the game by luck - East had the DA in with her hearts... ahydra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfi Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 Aces are good things... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Badger Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 East is worth a lot more than 2♥. With all those controls East is as near as damn it worth 4♥ immediately with a partner who has negative doubled a 2 level overcall vulnerable. 3♣ from East provides West with an opportunity to describe his hand further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordontd Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 East is worth a lot more than 2♥. If I were East I would actually prefer my partner to play this hand so a 3♣ bid here on route to a possible 4♥ contract might provide that option. (On this hand, however, I believe that East will still end up as declarer though) With all those controls East is as near as damn it worth 4♥ immediately with a partner who has negative doubled a 2 level overcall vulnerable. 3♣ from East provides West with an opportunity to describe his hand further.South overcalled at the two level. Why would you want North to be on lead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Badger Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 South overcalled at the two level. Why would you want North to be on lead? Apologies all, and thanks Gordon. Seat nav pointing in wrong direction again. Got disoriented :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 Even if I invited with the E hand, not 100% sure I'd accept with the W hand. I think this one is really quite difficult, and am actually not totally sure I want to be in it anyway, although with the 2♣ bid where it is I probably do. It's also not the simplest one to play. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordontd Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 Apologies all, and thanks Gordon. Seat nav pointing in wrong direction again. Got disoriented :)I can relate to that. I'm very spatially challenged. I particularly get those things wrong playing online bridge with robots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles123 Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 East is closer to 4H than 2H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 Hi, I am torn between East and Neither, I went with East, but seeing that neithergot basically nothing I regret it, Neither is an real LA.West has made a Neg. X, which alread promises a little more than 6/7 HCP,i.e. he has a min hand for his call.On the other hand, what ever one claims, the neg. X did not 100% gurantees a 4 card heart suit, i.e. requiring East to jump to 3H is ok, but you donthave to do it. I have no idea, how good the game is, esp. after a trump lead and continuationyou may find it difficullt to get your tricks, but I am not really good at analyzing this kind of stuff. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 3♣ from East provides West with an opportunity to describe his hand further. That bid would be game forcing to most would it not? I think East is worth a 3♥ bid though. Worry about heart quality is misplaced when you will be leading towards whatever West owns through the overcaller. Red at imps, I would auto raise to game with the West cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo1201 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 Over a TOX (or similar Xs like the one above) it is generally a good thing to give "the whole" of your hand because the X is not auto-forcing. So with 15 great HCPs (aces and potentially establishable Ss), E should probably bid 3H. The weak Hs is actually a good thing as trump honors now rate to be split between partner and South who showed some strength for his overcall (and partner sits after, so finesses will often work). I would bid 2H with KQxxxQJxxQxKx Now after the jump, not sure W would add the 4th all the time, but red at IMPs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmnka447 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 West has done more than enough by making an aggressive negative double. East has seriously underbid the hand by bidding 2 ♥. IMO, East's proper bid is 3 .♥. That shows the value of the hand and leaves room for further action or exploration by West. West's hand at this point is still unlimited, so the extra room may be vital should West have more than was actually held. At IMPs, West just carries on to 4 ♥ after 3 ♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamJson Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 I agree with the previous poster that east is worth 3H. However I think that west should then pass, although perhaps it is close. Make the ♣Q the ♠Q and it is worth pushing to four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 Whenever I bid 4H on these cards, I get bad breaks and good defense, and invariably go -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vladesch Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 West had already bid all his strength. If anyone should invite it should be east.I would bid 3h on east, but I think west should decline the invite.Not sure I really want to be in game on this hand.Maybe at IMPS. not at pairs scoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfi Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 Not sure I really want to be in game on this hand.Maybe at IMPS. not at pairs scoring. It is vulnerable at IMPs. As you point out, this would be a different problem at pairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 Even if E bid 3♥ I am not sure I would accept with the West hand. I think it's OK to miss this game, even vulnerable at IMPs. I admit that whichever lead you get it is likely to help you, but you still have a lot of work to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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