Tramticket Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 [hv=pc=n&e=s86hakt532dqj853c&d=w&v=b&b=4&a=p3n(Gambling)]133|200[/hv] Swiss Teams Are you bidding? Opposite a passed partner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfi Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 4H. Am I missing something? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles123 Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 yes it could go wrong of course but vul at teams you just have to bid game here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Badger Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 Distribution most always compensates, especially any 6-5, for lack of strength so it's an easy 4♥ for me too, even vulnerable opposite a passed partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinksy Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 We have a void in their solid suit. My main concern (which I don't think I can do anything about) is missing slam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 We have a void in their solid suit. My main concern (which I don't think I can do anything about) is missing slam. Slam opposite a passed partner is unlikely although not impossible (AQxx, xxxx, A, xxxx might make a grand with a following wind and opener 2137), the problem is where the right denomination is diamonds. I would bid 4♥ as a double shot, against I/As, very few have discussed the follow ups to 3N in competition, the hand opposite 3N is likely to be fairly big, and might only need to bid 4♦ to find a stiff heart to bid a slam if you pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmnka447 Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 4 ♥ here also. There's no way to know what's making or going down. With a 5 loser 6-5 hand, you've got to act. I don't necessarily believe LHO has to have a big hand. Between your hand and the 3 NT bidder's hand, you account for about half the points in the deck. (3 NT bidder ought to have something like ♣ AKQ10xxx minimum.) So the remainder of the points are distributed between LHO and your passing partner. I'd expect the point split to be closer to 10/10 than 20/0. I wouldn't be surprised to see that this hand could be a double game swing hand where both sides can make game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 4 ♥ here also. There's no way to know what's making or going down. With a 5 loser 6-5 hand, you've got to act. I don't necessarily believe LHO has to have a big hand. Between your hand and the 3 NT bidder's hand, you account for about half the points in the deck. (3 NT bidder ought to have something like ♣ AKQ10xxx minimum.) So the remainder of the points are distributed between LHO and your passing partner. I'd expect the point split to be closer to 10/10 than 20/0. I wouldn't be surprised to see that this hand could be a double game swing hand where both sides can make game. There is around half the deck, split between 2 hands where you can rule out your partner having 12 or more (possibly most 11s too) and a few weaker hands, that looks to me like an average of maybe 13-14 for the unpassed hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 4H. Am I missing something?You could be missing going -1100. That being said I am also bidding 4♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 Suppose you play multi-landy. Is there a case for bidding 4♦ instead of 4♥? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tramticket Posted July 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 You could be missing going -1100. One deal proves nothing of course, but this prediction proved remarkably accurate. In a field of 48 teams, 24 played in doubled four or five-level contracts in Hearts or Spades. The average penalty for these players was greater than 1100 and for two pairs it was 1700. Of course, you risk missing a vulnerable game if you pass. You might miss a slam? Well, possibly, but I would judge that opps are far more likely to have slam than you. I was interested to see how people assessed the risk / reward balance. It was an interesting hand. What do you do with the South cards if 3NT is passed to you: [hv=pc=n&s=sk952hqj76dak972c]133|100[/hv] [Note: South doesn't have an extreme hand - just a misfit for partner and values in the red suits]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfi Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 You could be missing going -1100. That being said I am also bidding 4♥. Meh. If I go -1100 on this hand, I expect it will be a flat board. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfi Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 It was an interesting hand. What do you do with the South cards if 3NT is passed to you: [hv=pc=n&s=sk952hqj76dak972c]133|100[/hv] [Note: South doesn't have an extreme hand - just a misfit for partner and values in the red suits]. 4C, of course. That should make at least 7 more tricks than 3NT. Ugly hand for East to walk into though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted July 26, 2017 Report Share Posted July 26, 2017 4C, of course. That should make at least 7 more tricks than 3NT. Ugly hand for East to walk into though. Partner always has Q, 10xx, Qx, AKQJxxx if you bid 4♣ but it's clearly the right bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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