apollo1201 Posted July 23, 2017 Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 Here's the most exteme and disappointing hand I dealt myself at all green (IMPs, as it probably matters): xxxQT98765432 Yep, a 10-carder, but in the cheapest suit, lacking AKJ, and 3 small singletons on the side. Whodoeswhatnow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Badger Posted July 23, 2017 Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 5 ♣ My thinking is: It might make your partner's life difficult, but there are twice as many opponents that it could make life difficult too. Play the odds. Any other bid just makes it easier for the opponents to compete. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted July 23, 2017 Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 I have held pretty much exactly this hand before (missing AK10 rather than AKJ). I bid 5 and after 3 trump losers got a horrible result when they didn't bid as many at the other table, still think it's right though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles123 Posted July 23, 2017 Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 no doubt Red Spawn will tell us that you can't possibly preempt on such a suit, but imo anything other than 5c is over thinking it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSpawn Posted July 23, 2017 Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 no doubt Red Spawn will tell us that you can't possibly preempt on such a suit, but imo anything other than 5c is over thinking itThis preemptive suit has 2 honors and a 9 in it unlike our prior example which was headed by a strong 10 and had a dubious side queen of diamonds trapped in a doubleton. The queen is in the right place! Any open less than 5♣ would be uncivilized as you want the opposition to work extra hard to find their major fit at the 5 level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullve Posted July 23, 2017 Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 This preemptive suit has 2 honors and a 9 in it Don't forget the 4! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted July 23, 2017 Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 5♣ for me as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted July 23, 2017 Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 In a random club game I directed a Canadian junior playing with his 80+ year old buddy picked up void, Jx, x, JT 10th in 1st chair and opened 2nt hoping to pass stayman. I kinda like it on this one too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Badger Posted July 23, 2017 Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 In a random club game I directed a Canadian junior playing with his 80+ year old buddy picked up void, Jx, x, JT 10th in 1st chair and opened 2nt hoping to pass stayman. I kinda like it on this one too. That made me laugh. It would have been really funny if his 80+ yo partner had an actual 2NT opener at the table and just bid 7NT. (I think emergency services might have had to be called after the hand though.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo1201 Posted July 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 In a random club game I directed a Canadian junior playing with his 80+ year old buddy picked up void, Jx, x, JT 10th in 1st chair and opened 2nt hoping to pass stayman. I kinda like it on this one too.Haha very funny! Didn't think that far, though. After the excitment of seeing all those clubs cooled down realizing the suit quality, I just opened 5♣️ like everyone else here. I thought I had gone mad (they all said so at the table) but no it seems. Or we'll be in good company at the asylum😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted July 23, 2017 Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 That made me laugh. It would have been really funny if his 80+ yo partner had an actual 2NT opener at the table and just bid 7NT. (I think emergency services might have had to be called after the hand though.) I didn't bother with the rest of the story since I posted it before but it's even better. Ole Mort had something like Kxxx, AKQx, AKxx, AK added 20 - 21 to that and bid 7nt That put the spade Ace on lead. 7 clubs was just cold and any notrump contracts made 7 from Morts side (the heart J is an entry to the clubs) when the leader had QJT9 of diamonds and no reason to lead anything else. And Mort played at least once, usually two times a week with this "kid" (who will be a GLM sooner rather than later) and barely raised an eyebrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnu Posted July 23, 2017 Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 Ole Mort had something like Kxxx, AKQx, AKxx, AK added 20 - 21 to that and bid 7nt Only 7NT? Very conservative, I would have bid more. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caitlynne Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 5C. The suit may be bad, but I have got 10 of them. You preempt to the 4 level with an 8 card suit. The 11 trick level is usually right with a 9 card minor suit. Again, the suit might be bad, but I've got 10 of 'em! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamish32 Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 That is a 1NT opening. 5C should provide a safe landing spot later if necessary - but we would like to buy it for less than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 In a random club game I directed a Canadian junior playing with his 80+ year old buddy picked up void, Jx, x, JT 10th in 1st chair and opened 2nt hoping to pass stayman. I kinda like it on this one too.Have you considered playing Wicked 2NT? Seems like it might be a good fit for you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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