manudude03 Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 [hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?sn=manudude03&s=SAKQ2HK654DAQ2C96&wn=Robot&w=SJ8653HJ932D865CQ&nn=Robot&n=ST97HAQT7DK73CA75&en=Robot&e=S4H8DJT94CKJT8432&d=w&v=o&b=8&a=P1C(Minor%20suit%20opening%20--%203+%20%21C%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points)3C(Aggressive%20weak%20jump%20overcall%20--%207+%20%21C%3B%2010-%20HCP%3B%203+%20total%20points)D(10+%20HCP%3B%20biddable%20%21C)PPP&p=SAS8STS4SKS5S9H8H4H2HAC3C4C6CQCAS7D4SQSJH5HJHQC2CKC9D5C7CJS2D6C5DJDQD8D3H6H9HTCTD9D2S6DKD7DTDAH3HKS3H7C8]399|300[/hv] Over 3C, I moused over my options. Double (my choice in the end) was penalty. 3x would show a strong rebiddable suit, and 4C would show clubs. So it seems there is no way to find a 4-4 major suit fit, which seems quite likely in this auction without risking playing in a 4-3 or even 4-2 fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Badger Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 The options are unhelpful, but I wonder if X is penalty on this auction as your robot partner has opened the suit? Swap the ♣ and ♦ around on both the East and South hands, and East now overcalls 3♦ over 1♣. Would X be still penalty, or the eminently more sensible takeout double showing the majors? Maybe someone who plays against the bots regularly will shed light on this possible auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted July 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 The options are unhelpful, but I wonder if X is penalty on this auction as your robot partner has opened the suit? Swap the ♣ and ♦ around on both the East and South hands, and East now overcalls 3♦ over 1♣. Would X be still penalty, or the eminently more sensible takeout double showing the majors? Maybe someone who plays against the bots regularly will shed light on this possible auction. 1C-(3D)-X is a negative double, not sure of its exact description but fairly sure it mentions something about 4+S. As for my double on the actual hand, it says "biddable ♣" in the description, so very much implying penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanoff Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 Surely it can't be double for penalty and 4♣ nat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerriman Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 Yep, seems like this is a big problem. When (basic) GIB is south in this situation.. it passes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted July 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 Yep, seems like this is a big problem. When (basic) GIB is south in this situation.. it passes. I just did a quick test myself. The advanced bots also pass.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 Double is penalty here and not negative as in Bergen's Neg X book ?!! Who taught these BOTs to bid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iandayre Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 Double should certainly be negative. This should be easy to fix right BBO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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