rebid with long major

[scrote]

Playing 2/1, how do opener's hands differ in these auctions?

 

1♥ 2♣ 4♥

1♥ 2♣ 2♥ 2♠ 4♥

1♥ 2♣ 2♥ 2♠ 3♥ 3NT 4♥

[spotlight7]

1) DNE

 

2) Should not exist

 

3) Long hearts, hopefully good ones to bid this way.

 

Did I really open 1H with this junk type hand.

[The_Badger]

Admittedly I am no 2/1 technical bidding specialist, but usually the principle of "minimum values, fast arrival" should hold true with most bridge systems that are played.

 

So A) would indicate to me, long ♥s, nothing extra outside whatsoever, probably 7-2-2-2 or similar.

 

and B) again, long ♥s, let's see where you are going, oh no! no support for your suits, nothing extra whatsoever.

 

and C) again long ♥s but 4♥ is a better contract than 3NT, but as the bidding was slower, I might have slight extra values but nothing extraordinary to warrant slam.

 

No doubt someone who has the latest 2/1 book will tell me that I am completely wrong

[mikestar13]

I really don't like "fast arrival" as usually defined = minimum values in a 2/1 auction. Fast Arrival should be used in sequences where the FA bidder knows "game but no slam" with a high probability,such as responses to 1NT.

 

A) would be really good hearts but no pointed suit controls. Reasonable club support may be or may not be present, but excellent club support should not be.

 

B) is similar, but may have a spade control, and denies spade support.

 

C) is not a jump, so FA would not be applicable in any case.

[Zelandakh]

First read this article, then decide on how you want to use jumps in your 2/1 sequences. I would suggest that the picture bid approach is better but it does also require a little extra work.