mike777 Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 The Bridge World May 2005 VUL//MPSOUTH BIDS DIAMONDS; A=KJ73=653=KQT65 (DEALER EAST) KQ843=AQ2=Q74=J7 (WEST) I get to 3nt on this one in SAYC, 2/1 and Canape strong club.Does your partnership do better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 I remember a couple of hands of similar situation. I opened and an opp (my lho) overcalled. Then with an unfit hand and 3 small of opp's suit on both hands, I was pushed to game no matter how I tried to sign off before game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 I have to confess I have bigger worries than staying out of a no-play 27 hcp game with two nice 7-card fits... Arend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestguru Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 I would also end up in 3nt and not worry about it. I haven't put any time into flushing it out, but I would like to try a canape opening system with a weak 1nt. I may be resulting, but wouldn't that go something like: 1♥ - 2♦ - 2♠ - P 3♣ - P - 3♥* - P? * I like the moysian fit with my AQ better than the Qxx stopper. Is this bad?? probably pass. Some may go on to 4♥ I guess another possibility is to bid 3♦ instead of 3♥ to ask for a stopper and then west has make the pass raise decision over the 3♥ response Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 3N doesn't seem to be too bad anyway. Anyone that doesn't get to 3N or 4H has a wire on the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Indeed, all you need in 3NT is either opponents holding J109 tight of spades (or a 4-card overcall). I hope I would get this one wrong too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 canape strong club: 1♥ : 1nt2♣ : 2s (game forcing now)3♦ (help here?) : 3nt or, probably, 4♥ i could not fault west for bidding 4♥ instead of 3nt, and i'd almost surely do that myself, especially if matchpoints 2/1 (my way, which is canape when hearts is opened ;)): 1♥ : 1♠2♣ : 2♦*3♣ : 4♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 It's hard to imagine that the auction would go much differently if east held the club ace instead of the club king (and maybe a small heart instead of the jack). 3NT is pretty decent opposite such a hand. So I wouldn't worry too much about this one. The only auction I can come up with to avoid game in standard methods is something like: 1♣-(1♦)-1♠-2♣-2♦-2♥-2NT-Pass But I'm not convinced that's particularly realistic bidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 There's one other possibility. Were I to open 2♣ (precision), over 2♦, I suggest only that it is possible, however unlikely, that partner could double (negative) rather than a normal 2♠. So then the auction may proceed ...(2♦) - X - (P) - 2♥ - (P) - 2♠ - (P) - 3♦* - (P) - 3♥** - (P) - P or 4♥ * - stopper ask** - don't like Qxx, like the moysian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 No. We would reach 3NT as well. Marlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GijsH Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 I think we have a chance with MIDMAC: E S W N1C 1D 1S p2C p 2D p2H p p p 1C: 1 or both 4card major, 9-19 HCP, 3+ controls1S: natural2C: no S support, 4H, 4/5C (E has only 12 points now, because of sin in partner's suit), 11-16 points.2D: W could force to game with 2S, but with only 3 controls, total controls looks to be 6 which is not enough for 10 tricks. 2D is 4th suit2H: no D stop, short S, minimum for more info on MIDMAC: http://www.midmac.tk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikestar Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 You need to be in 3N or 4H going off--bad result on this hand, but any system that lets you stay out of game on 27 HCP will have you missing laydown games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 Last time I felt pleased at staying out of a game like this one, their suit was blocked and we lost a bundle of imps. So I predict that their diamond suit is distributed A opposite KJ109xx and we make 3NT. Or that South isn't playing WJOs/didn't think of it/thought his hand was too good and holds xxx xx AKJ10xx xx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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