kontoleon Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Ok we have too many systems in bridge game, some easier t learn some other no. The Question is from your opinion where system is the hardest to learn or the system with the most trading infrmations Personaly i believe the Roman Spade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spotlight7 Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Roman Spade? Or did you mean Roman Club? I played Roman Club for about a year in the 1980s. As a Blue Team Club player, I did not find it very hard to learn. It was fun to play. The occasional 3 card major opening led to some unwanted 4-3 contracts so I 'modified' it to have 1M promise 4+. Google REGRESsion if you want complex. It is also the most accurate system I have seen. I bid difficult hands against the owner of the site for about a year. My version of Precision worked well, however, his results were near perfect. I added improved methods to my system. It did not matter, my goal became to try and match his results. I learned a lot that year about bridge. He showed me improved ways to use steps when bidding. For a better known system Ultimate Club is the second best for obtaining great results. It still has the record for 13 wins in a row in the Bridge World magazine bidding contest. They only sold 3,000 copies of the system and I own two copies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnu Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Personaly i believe the Roman Spade Red Team Heart systemLondon Bridge systemLong Club system3/1 system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontoleon Posted May 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Sorry Ρωμαικό σπαθί =Roman club correct I fail on translate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Ultimate Club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullve Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Personaly i believe the Roman SpadeI thought I invented the Roman Spade (based on Roman Club) a few years ago. Roman Spade: 1♣ = 11-13 BAL OR "10-21", 4+ D, unBAL, real canapé (=> 1♦ = 4+ H; 1♥ = 4+ S, 1♠ = GF relay)1♦ = "10-21", 4+ S, unBAL, real canapé (=> 1♥ = Herbert; 1N = GF relay)1♥ = "10-21", 4+ H, unBAL, real canapé (=> 1♠ = Herbert; 1N = GF relay)1♠ = 17-19 BAL OR "16-21", 4+ C, unBAL real canapé OR very strong...1N = to play opposite 17-19 BAL......P = 17-19 BAL......2♣ = "16-21", 4+ C, unBAL, real canapé (=> 2♦ = F1 relay)......2♦+ = very strong...2♣+: didn't get this far1N = 14-16 BAL2♣ = "10-15", 4+ C, real canapé (=> 2♦ = F1 relay)2♦+ = whatever, just not Roman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabooba Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 Ok we have too many systems in bridge game, some easier t learn some other no. The Question is from your opinion where system is the hardest to learn or the system with the most trading infrmations Personaly i believe the Roman Spade T_Rex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabooba Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 Ultimate Club. This is easy to remember as the relays are quite logical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 Although the Little Major system has a fairly intimidating reputation for being extremely difficult to handle, the hardest to learn would probably be one of the forcing pass methods. One I remember had an extremely strange way of grouping hands that took several calls to unwind. In terms of information exchange, there is I think little doubt that a forcing pass relay system offers the most potential. I doubt Roman Club (or spade!) is even in the same ballpark. Of non-FP methods, IMPrecision has arguably the strongest reputation on this site so I would suggest looking into that. There are also several other unusual systems played here, many of which I would expect to score much more highly than Roman in terms of information exchange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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