Quickie poll

[Phil]

Matchpoints

 

1N - (x)* - xx** - (pass)

2♣ - (pass) - ?

 

xxx

QJT

Qxxx

Axx

 

1N is 14-16

x shows either one minor or both majors

xx is values

 

Now what?

[gordontd]

Pass. Sounds like partner has a 13-count with six clubs.

[apollo1201]

Pass. Patrner seems to have an offshape and potentially subminimal opening. I have a flat 9 with slow tricks if we count 6 running clubs, 9 tricks are far away. Not sure notrumpers will outscore us (120 vs. 110 or 130?), and I've already told my story. If they compete I can bid 3C.

[nullve]

3♣ if PRE, else pass.

[rmnka447]

Partner's bid probably shows a 5 card ♣ suit and is worried about some suit stoppers. With a pancake distribution, you're unlikely to provide short suit ruffs. So, it's prudent to pass now and see if they contest the auction further. If partner has a max and intervenor 9-10, it may be difficult for advancer to reopen the auction.

[mr1303]

Hmmm, at MP do I not want to play this in NT?

 

I have a funny feeling partner misexplained my redouble...

[MrAce]

This auction does not make sense to meIf redouble showed values and pd did not pass my redouble, it means he misunderstood my redouble. I do not need an UI to figure this, assuming that I am playing with someone sane.

[Vampyr]

I will assume partner has psyched.

[PhilG007]

Matchpoints

 

1N - (x)* - xx** - (pass)

2♣ - (pass) - ?

 

xxx

QJT

Qxxx

Axx

 

1N is 14-16

x shows either one minor or both majors

xx is values

 

Now what?

Partner has removed the redouble. Alarm bells must be ringing. Best to pass and await developments(if any)

[MrAce]

I will assume partner has psyched.

 

 

Psyching at first seat? Using 1 NT?

Na, we are just on different page with pd about the meaning of redouble.

[msjennifer]

If his profile says that he plays the Wriggling convention then his bid of 2C is automatic.He and you are on different wavelengths.But if your partner knows the meaning of your xx then he is expressly telling you that 2C is a far better contract with 5/6 carder club suit.So PASS is the bid with this hand.And if it turns out that your wavelengths are different then pass and hope for the best and hope the opponents will help you by competing further.

[PhilG007]

The redouble was for business. Partner really should have passed and the doubler would have been

in a real fix. Taking evasive action like this does nothing to boost partnership confidence(!) <_<

[Joe_Old]

I agree that partner forgot the agreement, so any action is a guess.

 

If partner is playing the wriggling convention - pass. If partner thought the XX was SOS and is bidding up the line looking for an eight card fit, then pass might be the least dangerous guess. If partner has a minimum, unbalanced 1 NT and is worried about stoppers; you should be, too. Pass. If partner thought the bid was forward-going, it appears that he was the only one.

[cherdano]

This auction does not make sense to meIf redouble showed values and pd did not pass my redouble, it means he misunderstood my redouble. I do not need an UI to figure this, assuming that I am playing with someone sane.

Disagree - Gordon's explanation (6 clubs, minimum) makes perfect sense. It would be wrong to require this hand to pass. Sure, it is possible we pass up a penalty this way, but ot seems more likely that it helps our constructive bidding.

[broze]

Psyching at first seat? Using 1 NT?

Na

 

This is a Michael Rosenberg classic

[Vampyr]

Psyching at first seat? Using 1 NT?

Na, we are just on different page with pd about the meaning of redouble.

 

OK, but with the UI it seems to be our only option.

[MrAce]

OK, but with the UI it seems to be our only option.

 

Which UI?

[Phil]

Well there was UI as some have surmised.

 

Partner did alert my xx as a transfer to 2C, even though that isn't our agreement.

 

Of course I passed. Partner is pulling the xx because he has a min. The only real LAs are pass and 3C.

[msjennifer]

Phil G,Sir,you acted correctly ignoring partners alerts.If you had acted on the basis of partners alerts it would have been an unfair action.Confusions about the gadgets can easily occur in an unestablished partnership and in events like BBO and others where there are no provisions of partnership convention card ,which is as we all know,compulsory ,in all events in various open events all over the world.The more the gadgets the more is the possibility of confusions arising in the heat of the game.Its all in the game and that is what makes bridge more interesting than an intellectual game like chess.

[MrAce]

Well there was UI as some have surmised.

 

Partner did alert my xx as a transfer to 2C, even though that isn't our agreement.

 

Of course I passed. Partner is pulling the xx because he has a min. The only real LAs are pass and 3C.

 

So I was right!

Pd did not have a weird NT opening that decided to lift your value redouble, which has no max limit by the way.

I did not buy the arguments made by Arend or others about that.

I figured by experience that pd misunderstood my xx. And I did not come to this conclusion via UI and/or alert by pd.

[Phil]

So I was right!

Pd did not have a weird NT opening that decided to lift your value redouble, which has no max limit by the way.

I did not buy the arguments made by Arend or others about that.

I figured by experience that pd misunderstood my xx. And I did not come to this conclusion via UI and/or alert by pd.

 

Timo, I still don't know what call you would take after partners 2C.

[MrAce]

Timo, I still don't know what call you would take after partners 2C.

 

I am definitely not passing, probably 3 ♣.

I do not need UI to take caution. I do not buy that pd psyched 1 NT at first seat.

 

There are 2 options left which are far more likely than pd having psyched.

 

-He opened a weird NT with long clubs

-He forgot the meaning of xx.

 

In both cases I am raising clubs. If he forgot the meaning of xx, raising clubs may not help but I can't do everything for him.

But note that I am answering your OP in which I have no UI (wrong alert was not mentioned)

In the case of hearing his wrong explanation, I have to consider whether pass is a LA or not for my own level. But I would probably pass because that saves me from arguing my logic with the TDs.

[lamford]

This auction does not make sense to meIf redouble showed values and pd did not pass my redouble, it means he misunderstood my redouble. I do not need an UI to figure this, assuming that I am playing with someone sane.

Yes you do need UI, as partner opening 1NT with a weak two in clubs is the normal interpretation. You should alert 2C as a hand that would have passed Stayman, which is the normal psyche control here.

[MrAce]

Yes you do need UI, as partner opening 1NT with a weak two in clubs is the normal interpretation. You should alert 2C as a hand that would have passed Stayman, which is the normal psyche control here.

 

Why pd opening 1 NT with a weak 2♣ is normal interpretation? I have never seen anyone opening 1 NT with a weak 2 ♣ at first seat, and this is the first time I am hearing about it and now it is normal interpretation?

And as you witnessed in this topic, I did not have an UI and still got it right without the UI.

[mycroft]

1NT-2♣;

4♠-p.

 

What's 4♠? "I think partner just noticed his clubs are also spades."

 

Having said that, I, having never seen nor perpetrated the one in the OP, would expect 6 clubs and bad majors. Promised 12-14 optional.