plaur Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 I am quite insecure about autions like this1X- 2Y - p - p? - p - ? Im am going from the following definition, which is from the Danish beginner system Bridgevejen(4 card major acol like system), taught to most beginners in Denmark: When I choose not to a bid a negative x, I *expect* opener to reopen with an x! Opener could choose not to x if:1) she has length in the bid suit2) or she has a hand not suitable for defense (bid a suit) How do you like this definition?Would pickup partners on BBO play by this?Any good links to texts on negative bids for beginners in SAYC? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 Excellent treatment. Opener should always reopen if short in the suit overcalled, unless, as you point out, her hand has no defence and doesn't want to sit for a penalty if partner passes. Something like KQJ9764KJ9547 1♠ (2♥) pass pass2♦ It's quite likely that partner has a penalty of 2♥, but you don't want to cooperate and rebid 2♦. That is a warning against defending, and partner must remember. This hand will obviously pass: KQ1054AJ4K84108 Partner can't have a trap pass. I think this treatment is universal and has little, if anything, to do with the system you play. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 Hi, I agree with Roland, but would weaken his example hand a little bit further, i.e. I would also pass with KQ1054AJK84108x In other words, opener should always look very hard at his holdingin the overcalled suit, and ask himself, can partner have a trap pass, or is he just weak. (*) Even a holding like Kx in the overcalled suit would be an indicator not to reopen, at least playing IMP's. This gets more important if, the overcalled suit is spade, i.e. 1H - (2S) - (Pass) - (Pass)??? because now, you dont have the possibility to play on the 2 level. With kind regardsMarlowe (*) Knowing your opponents helps of course more, if they are regular overcalling on crap, you should reopen with a holding like AJ in their suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricK Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 Something like KQJ9764KJ9547 1♠ (2♥) pass pass2♦ It's quite likely that partner has a penalty of 2♥, but you don't want to cooperate and rebid 2♦. That is a warning against defending, and partner must remember.Whatever you consider partner's hand to be, I doubt it is correct to make an insufficient bid. :blink: Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Whatever you consider partner's hand to be, I doubt it is correct to make an insufficient bid. :P Eric OK then, 2♦ is certainly best under the circumstances, but let's change it to 2♠ :blink: Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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