Kungsgeten Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 In Francesco Paolo Sallustio's book "Jump Bidding" (available on http://www.bridgewithdan.com/systems for free) he mentions a method where instead of fourth suit forcing you can use transfers, starting with the fourth suit. I hadn't heard of that idea before, but I kind off like the thought of it (describing with the fourth bid, rather than asking). He plays transfers at the two-level as weak / GF and as invitational or slammish at the three-level. An example: 1H--1S; 2C---2D = Hearts, weak or GF2H = Spades preference, weak or GF2S = Balanced INV+2NT = Clubs, INV+3C = Diamonds, INV+ (strance bid, could perhaps be a courtesy raise instead)3D = Hearts, INV or slammish3H = Spades, INV or slammish The main problem to me seems to be finding a stopper in the fourth suit. Has anyone of you tried this, or thought about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spotlight7 Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 1H--1S; 2C---2D = Hearts, weak or GF2H = Spades preference, weak or GF 2S = Balanced INV+2NT = Clubs, INV+3C = Diamonds, INV+ (strance bid, could perhaps be a courtesy raise instead)3D = Hearts, INV or slammish3H = Spades, INV or slammish The main problem to me seems to be finding a stopper in the fourth suit. Has anyone of you tried this, or thought about it? Perhaps 2D* can be used for Hs, weak or GF "or" 3Ss weak or GF That would free up 2H* as 4th suit forcing so you can find a stopper. You might also exchange the meaning of 2S* and 2N* to avoid anti positional NT bidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 The main problem to me seems to be finding a stopper in the fourth suit. Has anyone of you tried this, or thought about it?2♠ followed by 3♦ would presumably be a stopper ask in this structure so I do not think that that should be considered to be the main problem with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straube Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 After 1H-1S, 2C opener has described 9 of his suit cards while responder has described 4 cards. It makes more sense for 2D to ask for further description of the better known hand than as a puppet to allow responder to describe his lesser known hand. The more that one hand has been described vs the other, the more it should be enabled to continue to describe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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