lamford Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 [hv=pc=n&w=sjtht94dkqj752c87&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1spp]133|200[/hv]Camrose 32-board match converted to VPS. Do you bid or do you let it go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 With no defensive trick I let it go. Too frustrating if next hand will jump to 4 Spades or they reach game in hearts thereafter. We could have 3NT but then partner might also bid 3NT without the diamond ace Rainer Herrmann 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfi Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 Swish it, for all the reasons Rainer gives. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamford Posted March 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 With no defensive trick I let it go. Too frustrating if next hand will jump to 4 Spades or they reach game in hearts thereafter. We could have 3NT but then partner might also bid 3NT without the diamond ace Rainer HerrmannI did float, and it was a swing out. I thought, at love all, partner should have overcalled 1NT on AKx Kxxx ATx Txx. ... They can beat 3NT, of course, with a heart and four clubs, but we were not playing Mystic Meg and Theresa Caputo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmnka447 Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 Either opener has a moose of a hand or partner has values and ♠ but can't bid because of other imperfections. I'm reopening with 2 ♦. I might not have many points but certainly have lovely ♦. If the hand were completely scruffy, say ♠ J10 ♥ 1094 ♦ KJ972 ♣ 1087, then it might be harder to reopen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahydra Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 I would bid 2D, but that's mainly because I always reopen very aggressively after (1x)-p-(p). (I adopted this style some years ago, after losing the Undergraduate Varsity match on the last board when partner didn't reopen to find our cold game! So far it has paid off more than it has lost, I would judge.) I don't think it's routine to overcall 1NT on a 4333 14-count even when NV (again that may be because I expect partner to reopen aggressively, but: one would also overcall 1NT on a mediocre 18, and is a range of 14-18 workable?). I would have sympathy for it though, and also for a TOX with the four hearts. I guess East at the other table punted 3NT direct over 2D? I was thinking that if East advertises a strong stop in spades, South may be reluctant to lead one and likely set 3NT as a result. ahydra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamford Posted March 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 I guess East at the other table punted 3NT direct over 2D? I was thinking that if East advertises a strong stop in spades, South may be reluctant to lead one and likely set 3NT as a result. ahydraAt the other table, it went (1S)-P-(1NT)-2D on this hand. Now opener rebid 2H and partner punted 3NT as his heart guard was working well. Opener doubled which some think should be don't lead a spade, but one was led anyway and that was +550 and +140 in this room! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 i would have doubled on partner's hand but i would bid on this hand too. yes your defence is minimal but your hand is good on offence. it's a little negative to give up imo - 3 hearts is not few enough to be an alarm bell. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 So, South's decision to sell out at this table would have resulted in a one-IMP loss -140 vs +100 if his East teammate had come to the party on opening lead. And, if Opener happened to be 5-4-1-3 instead of 5-4-0-4 it would have been a 5-IMP gain -110 vs +300. I think the focus is on the wrong table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycroft Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 I have the other problem with 1NT on this hand - swap your hand and third, and they'll know exactly what to do. The risk doesn't go away with "good 15 minimum", but I don't see any reason to increase it. I have to admit I would have balanced with this hand; this time it would have worked, but if I had done it, the auction would have continued (3♦)-p-(3♥)-p; (4♥). And even if they didn't find the cold game, +170 would seriously outscore -50... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 PASS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 PASSSomeone will probably ask for clarification of this. But, I googled it, and agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaitlyn S Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 If not even Rainer bids, doesn't pass have to be correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msjennifer Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 PASS.Not a single sure defensive trick! TWO passes after LHO opened sounds strange.Partner did not overcall nor did he double holding a decent 11/12 and four carder fair heart suit.And almost 9 losers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RD350LC Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Maybe others will not agree, but I would re-open with 2D. As they put it, losers pass, winners balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaitlyn S Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Maybe others will not agree, but I would re-open with 2D. As they put it, losers pass, winners balance. [hv=pc=n&s=s85hk8653d864ct94&w=sjtht94dkqj752c87&n=sak7643haq72dcaq2&e=sq92hjdat93ckj653]399|300[/hv] Putting the auction in the hand diagram didn't work for me, but I imagined something like: 1S P P 2D Dbl P 2H P 4D P 6H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Maybe I am the only one here quite surprised that PD can't find a bid directly over 1♠ with this prime 14 count and 4 cards in the other major. OK it is a pancake, but still is a prime 14. I'd make a take out double or 2nd choice stretch to 1NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Please delete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfi Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 I imagined something like: 1S P P 2D Dbl P 2H P 4D P 6H. Partner and I had one of these a couple of years ago. I opened 1S on a big two-suiter and the auction was quicker than yours: 1S - (P) - P - (2D)4H - (P) - 6H 1430 was a good result against the -140 our teammates brought back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullve Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) PASSI would re-open with 2D. As they put it, losers pass, winners balance.Given West's shape, would anyone really balance with a much weaker hand or pass with a much stronger hand? Edited March 26, 2017 by nullve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamijd Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 I think it's a close call. Personally, at IMPs, I'd pass (the chances of the opponents' having game seem greater than the chances of our having game, and their suit outranks ours). At MPs, I think I might venture 2D. But I don't think you can criticize either call much. I do think partner should have Xed 1S. Sure, it's 4333, but the four-card suit is the other major and all the HCP are in Aces and Kings. Gotta get in the bidding on those hands. 1NT overcalls on 14 are generally awful. Overcalls show a 15-18 range; there is only so much mileage you can get out of a 1NT bid. Making it apply to 14-18 hands puts too much stress on the bid (partner is going to try for game with a decent 7, and now you'll be overboard). Cheers,Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 [hv=pc=n&w=sjtht94dkqj752c87&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1spp]133|200|Camrose 32-board match converted to VPS. Do you bid or do you let it go?[/hv] I rankPass = NAT. Especially at imps, let sleeping dogs lie. Partner is marked with values but you have only 7 HCP with poor defence to the majors or NT. You might bid if your ♦s were ♦ A Q x x x x2♦ = NAT. If you must bid then 2♦ is pre-emptive and lead-directional.Double = T/O. Dangerous. I did float, and it was a swing out. I thought, at love all, partner should have overcalled 1NT on AKx Kxxx ATx Txx. ... They can beat 3NT, of course, with a heart and four clubs, but we were not playing Mystic Meg and Theresa Caputo.On partner's hand, over 1♠, I rankDouble = T/O. Automatic for an Italian or a true Welshman,Pass = NAT. Tradiotional with a flat 14 HCP.1N = NAT, Into the valley of death,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 I had the hand and bid 2d. Partner bid 3nt and they cashed the first five tricks for one off. I vaguely remember this as being against wales but obviously not if you had a swing out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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