rhm Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 I think 4NT stands out in any system. It would never occur to me to pass 5♣, which is far too defeatist.Sure partner could be broke and we can not make even 5♣. It happens but my guess is once in a blue moon. Opponents have announced a big fit and not a particularly strong combined values. Over 5♣ the decision is really between 6♣ and 5♠. I bid 6♣, which I do not consider very brave, but I do not want to direct a diamond lead against our slam. Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamford Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 4NT, showing initially the minors, but I will pull 5D to 5H and bid 5S over 5C, showing good first round controls. Grand rates to be poor, however, opposite xxxx xx Qxx Q9xx or xxx Qx xxxx xxxx so you should be aiming for 6, and there is a lot to be said for just bidding 6C. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 because partner surprisingly pick clubs and im 26 in the minors I think its likely hes got equal lenght in the minors. With a 3433,??22 he should pick 5D not 5C (5D suggesting that both D & H are better than clubs is slightly better than 5C wich only show that clubs are better than diamonds) so a 3244 is starting to look likely. If hes got this shape we need little to make grand. Hand outside 3244 are also possible 2344 & maybe 4333,4234. But in anycase I wouldnt give up on the grand. After reading some of the comments im astounded by how many players are passing 5C wich didnt cross my mind. Note that in imps you can bid slam that are slightly under 50%, opps may sac over your bids and sometimes game was going down or its a 4 or 6 hands. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 Also I would play 5H direct as stronger slammish and 4NT-5m-5H as weaker. This is like the better minor lebensohl scheme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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