dickiegera Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 You are in a 6♦ contract and you need to play the diamond suit for no losers. You hold AKJxxx dummy with entries hols 10xx. Do you #! finease #2 play for drop #3 play honor first and return to dummy before big decision? WHY?[hv=pc=n&s=shk2dakj953ckq954&n=sq9865haq94dt82cj&d=w&v=e&b=16&a=ppp2cp2hp3dp3sp4cp4hp5dp6dppp]266|200|WE play controls so 2Hearts shows 1 Ace or 2 Kings. 2 Spade bid and 3 Heart bids are natural[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMoe Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 Two reactions then an answer:1) the context of the entire hand is always important - so is the bidding.2) the "x's" matter - holding 9's or 8's have an impact on the odds. Try http://www.rpbridge.net/cgi-bin/xcc1.plRichard's site is highly manual but helps anyone visualize the reasons why a given line of play is best. Taking three strategies:Play AK:------------------53.13% - catches 2-2(40.7%) and q-xxx (12.44%)Play A then finesse: 51.43% (loses to qxxx-void (4.78) but gains xxx-Q (6.22%)).Finesse:------------------45.22% (50%? - only if West does not cover from Q987). Since we assume they hold 9 and 8, the Q987 - void case loses one trick that you were never going to win).The fourth strategy (Play A then lead small toward KJxxx) allows for the case where LHO plays xx. Now going up with the K is better (original probability Qxx-x 18.65% and xx-xQ as 20.35%). Notice that 20.35%/(18.65+20.35) = 52.17% - exactly what vacant spaces would predict (after LHO plays the second x, the odds are 12/23 that the Q is with RHO. You know 2 of LHO's cards leaving 11 spaces - and 1 of RHO's cards leaving 12 spaces. 12/23 = 0.5217). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMoe Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 Thanks for the additional detail. Can you recall the opening lead? It is possible on this hand that RHO is 3=3=4=3. You might be able to get a partial count of the hand by playing off side suits and ruffing ♠s. Likewise if LHO has ♠AK and ♣K, they wont have the ♦Q. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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