How to bid this one?

[cf_John0]

3S is a bad raise bid because of 1S may a 4card-suit,;and it's a wrong cue-bid of no SA.

If the south had SA instead of SK,3S does not indicate Club control.

The normal bidding sequence may as below:

 

1H 1S

3D 3H

4D 4H

=

[mike777]

auction was fine until 3S. Your pard should bid 5S or 5H over that

Must say I thought this one was very standard and obvious.

 

Justin and Phil's comments of jumping to 5 level.

 

From all these complicated answers I guess nothing in bridge is standard and obvious.

[beatrix45]

From all these complicated answers I guess nothing in bridge is standard and obvious.

:P

 

No, but there is science and reason versus ignorance and superstition.

[whereagles]

People sometimes make heavy weather out of a hand because it is presented as a problem. At table they seldom think of so many thing as they say here. They just play bridge :(

[Fluffy]

Disagree, on teh hand you posted I would bid 4♥,  of course that's jsut a matter of style, but setting trumps at the 3 level to be able to cue is a pilar of my system.

Interesting, finding 8 card fits is a pillar of my system.

Hey!, I though it was you americans who loved to raise 1x-1M with 3 cards :-P

[Double !]

I am going to dare disagree with many of the respondents to this thread and offer another sequence for consideration. While I don't necessarily disagree with the 3 diamond GF jump-shift, this bid unfortunately ate up a level of bidding room.

 

My (less-than-expert) suggestion, submitted for your consideration, is to rebid 3 spades over 3 diamonds. I want to emphasize my spade length and relative strength as a potential source of tricks as well as describing my hand. Then I plan to show my heart support. ie 4H over 3N, 5H over 4S, etc. Hopefully, the strong hand will then be better placed to decide on what further action, if any, to take. And, I believe, that any RKC bid would now be double suit agreement. Even if it isn't, doesn't this suggested sequence show responder's hand?

 

(My suggested sequence might be influenced by the fact that, if playing 2/1, I strongly prefer playing 2/1 GF except for suit rebid, so I don't play nor really like wjs. Actually I play 2S/1H as an unspecified strong J-S, oh dinosaur that I am.

J-S over 1m is a 2-way bid, either strong or a fit bid.)

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

 

I am no expert either, but if you bid 3S instead of 3H,

it will become difficult to convince partner, that you have

primary support in hearts.

 

Opener will most likely consider 4H bid over 3NT as

a bid looking for the best game.

 

Another problem is, that 3NT by opener is still natural,

sugesting a place to play. In the actual situation opener

has no real obvious cue bid available,

- 4C, no club control

- 4D, may still be natural showing 6-5

 

The solution of course is, to bid 5S => asking for a contol

in club, the "standard" meaning in this special sequence.

But since for several people on this forum 3H did not set

trumps, i.e. 3S was still looking for the right suit, I am not

sure, that there is only one meaning for this bid.

(Personally I play 5S just as an ask about trump quality, so that

I hope, I got this one right, i.e. 5S as an ask for a club control.)

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[Double !]

Enlighten me. Why would it be impossible to convince parter that I have a decent heart holding if I pull 3NT to 4H's on what, up to that point, sounded like a possible mis-fit auction? How do I say, "Hey P, I have 6 decent spades and some heart support for you but no controls in the minors?" Without decent support, why would one pull 3NT to 4H?

 

DHL

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

 

simply put: you did not raise, hence you

dont have primary support.

 

The 3NT bid by partner was a suggestion,

denying 2 spades, shwoing a club stopper,

maybe he holds a 5-4-3-1 shape.

Your 4H bid over his 3NT bid, says simply,

you prefer to play hearts.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe