ovncylmz Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 Hello all, We are thinking of replacing our single event structure with two separate events because of significantly different pace of the players: - Event 7A: a Modified-swiss tournament with 2 x 16 board matches assigned at the beginning of each week. Format: Best-hand IMP, takes 4 weeks (8 matches) but may be changed to 5 weeks if we have too many players. Open to anyone. - Event 7B: Round-robin then Knock-out tournament, with 5-7 matches(12 to 16 boards) per week. Format: Best-hand IMP, planned time is 3 to 4 weeks, but may be shorter or longer based on the number of entrants. Unfortunately, we have to exclude players who were (i) not following the post daily, (ii) not playing in the suggested speed in the previous competitions. Therefore, you can register but your spot is not guaranteed (I promise we will be as flexible). For a player who never played in any of the competitions, we will ask for at least two references - references can leave me a message in BBO. Important note: A player can register for both events at the same time. We will start the registration process soon. Best,Ovunc Registration for 7B: http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/topic/76200-event-7b-round-robin-then-knock-out-fast-pace/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 I thought MPs were now the preferred format? :( 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovncylmz Posted February 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 I thought MPs were now the preferred format? :( We are going to switch back and forth. However, I strongly prefer IMP Swiss as a starting point for the slow pace event. For the fast event, I am quite sure that we will be switching between all different options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank0 Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 The real problem with MP is that...so many ties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 The real problem with MP is that...so many ties. Frank, the number of 'ties' to determining the best contest are about as relevant as the color of the deck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy4hoop Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 One of the pluses I found about event #6 was that it was non best hand. Is there any chance we can use that format again, if not in this event then future ones? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordontd Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 One of the pluses I found about event #6 was that it was non best hand. Is there any chance we can use that format again, if not in this event then future ones?Yes. I thought that had been established as standard for these events. Was it perhaps a typo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovncylmz Posted February 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Since people are not playing the same sets and it is a Swiss only (No KO), we go with Best-Hand in the first event. We don't want that a match defends 13-14 out of 16 hands and other match only defends 2-3. It will create completely different number of opportunities for the players. Plus, defending with GIB is mostly random, expert players say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordontd Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Since people are not playing the same sets and it is a Swiss only (No KO), we go with Best-Hand in the first event. We don't want that a match defends 13-14 out of 16 hands and other match only defends 2-3. It will create completely different number of opportunities for the players. Plus, defending with GIB is mostly random, expert players say.The original post shows best hand for both the events, the Swiss and the RR/KO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarletv Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 For a player who never played in any of the competitions, we will ask for at least two references - references can leave me a message in BBO.Please specify what kind of references you expect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelekar Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 What is missing in bridge is quality plays. Swiss team event gives you chance to do such plays. I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovncylmz Posted February 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 The original post shows best hand for both the events, the Swiss and the RR/KO. Yes, RR/KO - we always rotate between different options. This time we go with IMPs-BestHand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovncylmz Posted February 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Please specify what kind of references you expect. Probably one or two players (who are involved in the earlier tournaments and played in a good pace) who can say that you can play 6-7 games per week:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Please specify what kind of references you expect. References? Are they applying for work? If theres a new player all they should be required to do is register and/or play an Arena challenge to make sure they understand the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarletv Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Probably one or two players (who are involved in the earlier tournaments and played in a good pace) who can say that you can play 6-7 games per week:)I don't think anyone of them knows me. And now? If theres a new player all they should be required to do is register and/or play an Arena challenge to make sure they understand the process.In the end I found out that arena challenge is just another word for challenge a stranger. http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=ARDCHALLENGE:c008deae.f944.11e6.ab15.0cc47a39aeb4-1487798435&u=scarletv Depending on the number of boards it should be no problem for me to play 6-12 challenges a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 I don't think anyone of them knows me. And now? In the end I found out that arena challenge is just another word for challenge a stranger. http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=ARDCHALLENGE:c008deae.f944.11e6.ab15.0cc47a39aeb4-1487798435&u=scarletv Depending on the number of boards it should be no problem for me to play 6-12 challenges a week. Send me a challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarletv Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Send me a challenge.done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovncylmz Posted February 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 References? Are they applying for work? If theres a new player all they should be required to do is register and/or play an Arena challenge to make sure they understand the process. That is for the fast-pace event. Last time more than half of the newcomers were not able to follow the posts in the forum / send a challenge / understand it was a tournament etc. We want to keep fast-pace event as small as possible so we can actually do a cool RR, at least in the first time. Instead of making it a invitational or closed event, we decided to add people if someone gives a good reference for them - saying something like "this person knows about how it works, and can commit 6-7 games per week". Dropouts in the middle of the tournament is so painful to deal with. Note that slow-pace Swiss is open to anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovncylmz Posted February 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 scarletv, you will be in - don't worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xavierf Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 When will it start? Because I am now for another 1 and a half weeks in Zambia were we don't have wifi, if it starts afterwards I would like to join the 7A tournament Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elyk25 Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Sounds good with me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovncylmz Posted February 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/topic/76200-event-7b-round-robin-then-knock-out-fast-pace/ Registration for 7B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 So is this supposed to be the registration thread for 7A now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 Please may I play. FWIW, IMO: Each match should be longer, say 8 X 16 or 10 X 10 boards. The point of using a Swiss-format is to allow longer matches, in a similar time-frame,There should be fewer matches -- roughly 1 + square-root (number of players).The scoring is less important but I prefer best-hand BAM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xavierf Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 I would like to join 7A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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