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Contract was 6nt :blink:

Thanks for disturbing my sleep as I dreamt the contract was six club.In 6 NT if hearts are not 3/3 then one has to guess which finesse to take.If west has both Kings and also 4 hearts he can never be squeezed as South is squeezed before him.Toss up the coin and if it's heads finesse D and if tails finesse spades or the other way round.If East has both then the hand is lay down.There is no threat in dummy like say DJ in place of a small one when the Vienna coup may see one through hence any squeeze is out of question.There is a further twist if hearts are 4/2 , the 9and10 don't appear from W and East wins the heart ace to return a spade or a diamond.

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So I'll advance the Q. I presume they are ducking this (if they win, I'll provide a solution but I don't think they're going to make my life easy. Then I play a to the K.

In this case the opps return a , destroying the entry to dummy and force you to run the !C without testing anything.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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All we know for sure is that W has two clubs and A10 in heart ,most presumibly not in suit four cards(=fourth best) by opening leads and fourthemore his /her is protecting anything. If 6NT have to realize, having leads 10, cannot be the two Kings in West hand.
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Under this absumption (post #30) i think that W can have K (3-2-6-2 shape), has avoided to lead a diamond for doesn't impasse a probable pd honor and are been discarted by E on clubs 3 spades and 1 diamond (4-4-3-2 shape) finding S the 12th trick on last club(=any triple sq.) by Q winner or in heart suit.
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West had K, K and doubleton A10.

 

 

The winners of the event Stamatov Danylov found 6 clubs from south after a 1 opening. They got another club lead.

 

It is also in jeopardize since spades are 5-2, but declarer saw that he could give himself an extra chance of endplaying west by playing a low heart at trick 2. When west duck dummy can win, A, ruff a spade, club to hand, spade ruff (test for 4-3), draw last trump if neccesary and then play a heart, this would endplay west into playing a spade or a diamond, with East known to have no spades left.

 

West played A to avoid being endplayed later.

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West had K, K and doubleton A10.

 

 

The winners of the event Stamatov Danylov found 6 clubs from south after a 1 opening. They got another club lead.

 

It is also in jeopardize since spades are 5-2, but declarer saw that he could give himself an extra chance of endplaying west by playing a low heart at trick 2. When west duck dummy can win, A, ruff a spade, club to hand, spade ruff (test for 4-3), draw last trump if neccesary and then play a heart, this would endplay west into playing a spade or a diamond, with East known to have no spades left.

 

West played A to avoid being endplayed later.

Than needs to play about 6NT on honors/cards divided in heart suit 2-1(=A10-9) and impasse (after discarting last Queen). This one seems the situation too when there is an ending against an opp having plus a finesse: if squeeze falls it is although possible impasse.

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Since you are playing for thousands of euros let me state that I think this approach to bidding is pennywise and pound foolish (pun intended). When u are short in p long suit ruffing might play a huge part in making your contract so tend to play the long strong minor rather than 6n. Feel free to send me 10 euros every time this advice works:))))))))))))
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Since you are playing for thousands of euros let me state that I think this approach to bidding is pennywise and pound foolish (pun intended). When u are short in p long suit ruffing might play a huge part in making your contract so tend to play the long strong minor rather than 6n. Feel free to send me 10 euros every time this advice works:))))))))))))

I agree with you and i used to do it expecially if i have an unbalanced hand (en passant choising trump leaves always the possibility to play as NT rescouting that) but i am thinking yet at 3-3 in heart suit (9 in W/E) vs 4-2 (excluding 2-4 in W) but if risky is minor by shape(=more probable vs 3-3) maybe we have to finesse.

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I think that my line is superior because offers many choising : you can squeeze E in two ways (triple a trick earlier or single on last club) or have the possibility to impasse if squeeze doesn't work and fourthemore should be covered also heart (3-3 case) if a discarting happens. The impasse in squeeze ending is supered because squeezing you have the same resulting but anytime is necessary because is structural (i.e. when you reduct opp for one card). A similar situation is already talked by me in "Squeeze or other" by lamford in Interesting Bridge Hands forum.
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Since you are playing for thousands of euros let me state that I think this approach to bidding is pennywise and pound foolish (pun intended). When u are short in p long suit ruffing might play a huge part in making your contract so tend to play the long strong minor rather than 6n. Feel free to send me 10 euros every time this advice works:))))))))))))

 

 

Before giving lessons to better players think twice, or better three times to avoid looking like a fool. Any time this advice works feel free to metally thank me.

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Before giving lessons to better players think twice, or better three times to avoid looking like a fool. Any time this advice works feel free to metally thank me.

 

I wondered how long that would take coming - but good advice.

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  • 2 weeks later...

Before giving lessons to better players think twice, or better three times to avoid looking like a fool. Any time this advice works feel free to metally thank me.

 

I consider my advice here to play in the minor to be VERY sound and I do not care one whit how much better you are than I am. Foolish of me, possibly, but I hope anyone that reads that advice uses it successfully many times throughout their bridge career. Oh and make it 100 euros.

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I consider my advice here to play in the minor to be VERY sound and I do not care one whit how much better you are than I am. Foolish of me, possibly, but I hope anyone that reads that advice uses it successfully many times throughout their bridge career. Oh and make it 100 euros.

Did you actually notice that they would lead a diamond against 6 played by North?

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Did you actually notice that they would lead a diamond against 6 played by North?

 

???????? do I understand this inquiry to mean that because N had this precise distribution vs say 222 123 114 024 033 plus a 7th undeserved club that you disagree with the idea that playing in clubs (vs nt) as an overall concept is wrong? please tell me this last question was not based on the hindsight of this particular dummy hitting the table PLEASE:)

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I think I finally understood what all your nonsense was about. 2 is today's expert standard: Game forcing. Dummy is not an overpowered dummy with a 7th club, it is a subminimal dummy missing the expected K. Playing 6 with the announced K missing and a side ace is digging your own tomb.
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I think I finally understood what all your nonsense was about. 2 is today's expert standard: Game forcing. Dummy is not an overpowered dummy with a 7th club, it is a subminimal dummy missing the expected K. Playing 6 with the announced K missing and a side ace is digging your own tomb.

 

Until now no one (even you) has commented on the subminimal dummy due to the lack of the spade K (come on partner quit hiding the spade K and put in on the table - when the dummy hit). N bidding looked totally normal to me (would turning the heart K into the heart A have made a difference? or did the lack of a key card reinforce the idea of the existence of the spade K?). You made an assumption on the presence of the spade K that I would not have made and explored in a different way because of that assumption (my theoretical partnership would have stopped in 5c but that is not important). That is what makes the bridge world go around and helps partnerships flourish (when they agree with each other's thinking). Given your assumption of the spade K I think 6n is a reasonable final spot (especially if you are counting on only 6 clubs) but please also note that with the assumption of the spade K there are many more instances where 6c makes easily and becomes a way better than 50% contract (90%+ with this particular distribution) even with the "tomb digging" lead of a dia through the AQ since we would just hop the A and ignore the, apparently doomed, finesse completely. Though this is only 1 distribution of many.

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