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A few considerations:

- with normal breaks, I can hope to make 10 tricks alone so I should be worth some kind of GF opening

- NT contratcs would not play better as even if I can establish my suit, a AK stopper might not stop the run of opponents suit and communication to dummy (if he raises some kind of super 2NT opening to 3 with 2 queens and Jx hearts) could be a nightmare

- even if I have a bad suit, it is still a 7-carder and partner if he has some points and wants to explore slam should consider external As and Ks (good thing, he has none!) and H honors in his decision so I believe we shouldn't get overboard

 

So I dare a 2C opening followed by 2H. With 6322 I would go for some 2NT (not playing puppet!).

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I do not see the issue.

partner needs a yarborough with a singleton heart to make game.

Unless we open 2 how do we want to convince our partner that we will only need goods hearts for the sky to be the limit?

What terrible can happen if you open 2?

Outside of hearts partner can have only a couple quacks.

Of course partner may be short in hearts and have a good long suit somewhere else.

But even this might be easier to find out by opening 2.

 

Rainer Herrmann

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Nor very likely. The singleton would have to be precisely 9!

He could have a heart void and you have a 36% chance of 4H making (3-3 break).

If he has singleton Ace you have a 68% chance of an overtrick (3-2 break)

Any other heart singleton appears to be about equal - 68% chance of 10 tricks on a 3-2 break.

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It's a 3 loser hand even if the suit is only 8 high, so 2 seems normal.

 

If you have a reasonably disciplined approach to 2 openers and responses, you should be able to work out game vs. slam pretty quickly. And, as someone pointed out, you're odds on to make opposite a stiff in a Yarborough and even make some percent of the time opposite a void.

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Nor very likely. The singleton would have to be precisely 9!

 

 

 

He could have a heart void and you have a 36% chance of 4H making (3-3 break).

If he has singleton Ace you have a 68% chance of an overtrick (3-2 break)

Any other heart singleton appears to be about equal - 68% chance of 10 tricks on a 3-2 break.

 

Jallerton knows the odds of this game very well.

Do you know what "yarborough" is? If so you should have caught the humor about 9. Jallerton did not comment about the odds of making game but about the odds of pd holding a "yarborough" with a stiff when we have all smallest spots available up to the 8. He can correct me if I am wrong because English is native language of both of you and not mine.

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As it happened, I got a similar hand just a moment ago - not quite so strong in hcp mind you!

[hv=pc=n&n=s2hakjdak9ct87543]133|100[/hv]

I opened 1 (what else can I do?) and was overcalled 1 which partner doubled. I wasn't sure if we have any agreement about negative X's so what do I do now?

 

I ventured 2 which was passed. Partner was void in clubs! Nevertheless by some fluke I made my contract. With six to no honours in the trump suit!

 

I realised afterwards that my p's X was for penalties and I should have left it. Oh well, that's for another day...

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I realised afterwards that my p's X was for penalties and I should have left it. Oh well, that's for another day...

No it wasn't. He might have meant it for penalties, but that doesn't make it so. You should not have left it and he should not have doubled. He should have passed, you should have doubled, and if a 1 level penalty was really right, he could then pass.

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This hand was not dealer,it was third in hand. Does that make a difference?

Oh and it was Game All.....

 

Really? I would had bet 100 to 1 that the hand wasn't randomly dealt. If it was a real hand I would still bet the hands were predealt.

 

This is why I would be cautious, if someone has predealt this would you be surprised that 4 go 3 down when 7 makes?

 

 

 

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I do not see the issue.

partner needs a yarborough with a singleton heart to make game.

Unless we open 2 how do we want to convince our partner that we will only need goods hearts for the sky to be the limit?

What terrible can happen if you open 2?

Outside of hearts partner can have only a couple quacks.

Of course partner may be short in hearts and have a good long suit somewhere else.

But even this might be easier to find out by opening 2.

 

Rainer Herrmann

 

Very late to this one. I co-sign rh's comment. As advancing bridge players we must remember that the artificial 2 hands wear many different uniforms and come in various shapes and sizes.

 

From an LTC perspective, this hand has 3 losing tricks coming from hearts. Since you have a hand with less than 4 losers, it is incumbent on you to sound the trumpets and roll out the red carpet and open your royal 2 hand. You must put your partner on official notice that you have a potential barn burner.

 

Bid your strength and then your length and let nature take its course.

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