m1cha Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 I got this one tonight with two big issues. [handviewer=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?sn=m1cha&s=S832H97DAQJT765CA&wn=Roboter&w=SJT4HK654D842CK94&nn=Roboter&n=S97HAJ82DK9CQJ863&en=Roboter&e=SAKQ65HQT3D3CT752&d=e&v=n&b=2&a=1S(Major%20suit%20opening%20--%205+%20%21S%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points)2D(Two-level%20overcall%20--%205+%20%21D%3B%2010+%20HCP%3B%2011-18%20total%20points)2S(Free%20major%20raise%20--%203+%20%21S%3B%206-10%20total%20points)D!(Responsive%20double%20--%204+%20%21C%3B%202-%20%21D%3B%204+%20%21H%3B%205-%20%21S%3B%206+%20total%20points)P3D(10+%20HCP%3B%20rebiddable%20%21D%3B%2011-18%20total%20points)P3H(4+%20%21C%3B%202-%20%21D%3B%206+%20%21H%3B%205-%20%21S%3B%2012-13%20total%20points)P4D(4-%20%21C%3B%201-%20%21H%3B%20strong%20rebiddable%20%21D%3B%2013-18%20total%20points)P5D(4+%20%21C%3B%202%20%21D%3B%206+%20%21H%3B%205-%20%21S%3B%2012-13%20total%20points)PPP&p=D2D9D3D5C3C2CAC4S2S4S7SQCTH7CKC6SJS9S6S3STDKS5S8HAH3H9H6H2HTDTH5DAD8C8C7&c=10]400|300[/handviewer] (1) Advancer doubles, then bids 3♥ promising a 6-card suit (which sounds good to me) but the robot only has a 4-card suit! So I end up having to play 4♥ in a 4-2-fit (4 down) instead of a 7-2 fit in diamonds. (2) Why doesn't the hand diagram show me playing 4♥? Because after dummy came down, I wasn't fond of playing that hand immediately, and I left BBO. I came back 7 hours later and got the same hand back at an earlier stage of bidding, right after East's 1♠ bid. So I could avoid the trap and insist on my ♦s. Good for me, but I think this shouldn't happen! (3) Finally I wonder why GIB doesn't let me play 4♦ peacefully (and make it). But since the bidding had been f*cked up earlier, this point is probably not worth discussing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iandayre Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 GIB likes to make calls like 3H AS IF they meant a general game try. Even its own GIB partners rarely if never interpret them that way. Lots of luck for the human ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1cha Posted January 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 Hm. Perhaps it IS a general game try and just the label is wrong. With 6+♥ and 12 points, would one bid 3♥ directly rather than double? If it's just the label, it could be solved easily. Well but if it's a game try, 4♦ should say "no" and be to play. If I wanted to force to game, I could bid 3♠ instead of 3♥. Isn't this double also somewhat strange? Kind of "Partner, you have 11+ points and I have 6+. We don't have a fit yet but it seems a good idea to me if you bid something on the 3 level". If the double showed 10+ points and if the 3♦ response had a narrower range, it wouldn't be necessary to enter the auction again with 12 points on a high level in the obvious absence of a fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iandayre Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 Hm. Perhaps it IS a general game try and just the label is wrong. With 6+♥ and 12 points, would one bid 3♥ directly rather than double? If it's just the label, it could be solved easily. Well but if it's a game try, 4♦ should say "no" and be to play. If I wanted to force to game, I could bid 3♠ instead of 3♥. Isn't this double also somewhat strange? Kind of "Partner, you have 11+ points and I have 6+. We don't have a fit yet but it seems a good idea to me if you bid something on the 3 level". If the double showed 10+ points and if the 3♦ response had a narrower range, it wouldn't be necessary to enter the auction again with 12 points on a high level in the obvious absence of a fit. Agreed GIB should pass 4D. The double, though, seems like a perfectly normal responsive double to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1cha Posted January 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 Agreed GIB should pass 4D. The double, though, seems like a perfectly normal responsive double to me.In terms of distribution, definitely. In terms of strength, 6+ total points over 2♠, are you sure?I mean, I can live with that but, for comparison, a negative double over 2♠ I'd rather rate at 9 or 10 points ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iandayre Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 In terms of distribution, definitely. In terms of strength, 6+ total points over 2♠, are you sure?I mean, I can live with that but, for comparison, a negative double over 2♠ I'd rather rate at 9 or 10 points ... I wasn't referring to the description. I said the actual, 11 HCP hand is a solid responsive double. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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