PhilG007 Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 Bridge Prodigies. Those players who achieved greatness while still in their formative years...have thereever been any? Are there any likely to be in the future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 Bridge Prodigies. Those players who achieved greatness while still in their formative years...have thereever been any? Are there any likely to be in the future? Well, here in the US most players are over 70, so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 There are many. Both past and present. I dont understand the point of the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Justin Lall :) a great player and generous with good advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1eyedjack Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Keeping an eye out for Boye Brogeland's offspring - given their exposure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 We have two local players in the Boston area, Adam and Zach Grossack. They're 24 and 19, respectively. 2 years ago they won the NABC+ Fast Pairs together, and Zach has several other top finishes, as well as representing the US in a number of international junior championships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycroft Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 ACBL Queen or King of Bridge. Nope, never heard of them. Especially the second, third, and fourth of them. Anyone with a link - might still be pretty good. Two of the Canadians without a link "gave up" bridge for more rewarding pursuits; I'm proud of having had one as my teacher and occasional partner, and two as very gracious opponents. If you're looking for younger than high school, see how many of this list you recognize. Note: I just learned about someone I have worked with (in a non-playing role mostly now). The things you learn! I'm sure that if you look at the lists of medal winners in Junior World Championships, and parlay them out to current records, you'll find a similar number of (some non-ACBL) players who might count as prodigies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diana_eva Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Many from outside of ACBL land as well. Giovanni Donati (Italy): http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/news_fetch.php?id=685Tuncay Altun (Turkey): https://www.facebook.com/tuncayaltun80?fref=tsSoren Christian Bune (Denmark): https://www.facebook.com/sorenbune?fref=ts Maybe not a prodigy as in pro player yet, but cute nevertheless, Greg Humphrey's daughter: http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/news_fetch.php?id=1392 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 My 2 year old son started browsing Bridge Worlds I had lying around. Does that count? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 My 2 year old son started browsing Bridge Worlds I had lying around. Does that count? Only if he poops on Kleinman's articles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 My 2 year old son started browsing Bridge Worlds I had lying around. Does that count?Was his first word "double"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1eyedjack Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Does "burble" count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Does "burble" count?At the beginning of life, I suppose so. At the other end, I think it signals that it's time to give up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USViking Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Can't anyone provide some empirical suggestions, such as identifying the ages of the youngest people who have ever reached a certain Master Point level, or to have played in a major national competition? There should be reams of data out there. Some time ago I was interested in the youngest Bermuda Bowl winners ever, and tried to look them up. The top three are, I think: Michael Klukowsky, age 19, champ in 2015Bobby Levin, age 23, champ in 1981Agustin Madala, age 27, champ in 2013 Mandala finished 2nd in the South American Open Pairs at age 12- certainly a prodigious result. (He has a multinational background, having competed for both Argentina and Italy) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 I moved this thread from BBO Tournaments to General Bridge Forum. I'm not sure what it ever had to do with BBO tourneys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 Watching David Bakhshi's daughter Jasmine who seems to be doing fine in EBU land at age 12 or so. We have a local junior who's either 12 or 13 and I suspect could be very good if she carries on with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 http://cbf.ca/charity/erin-berry-memorial-fund/the-life-of-erin-berry/ Any Canadian player or junior around at the time knows that this was a World Champion in the making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 Since we seem to be focused on male players thus far, I can remember the Rimstedt siblings making something of a splash back in the day. The issue with bridge is that for the most part juniors show great promise but it tends to take some time before they make the breakthrough internationally and some, especially in highly competitive countries like the USA, never manage to make that step. Presumably part of that is experience but some of it is probably also the ability to get onto the best teams. Having a world class parent is helpful in that regard not only in terms of learning the pro tricks at an early age but also bringing a (perceived) stronger partnership rather than 2 unknowns. Bridge is also not as "sexy" as alternatives such as poker or even the stock market, where there is a more obvious and direct path to making large sums of money. It is difficult to make the leap to being a full-time bridge pro and my guess is that the majority are essentially taking a pay cut to start out with given that we are mostly talking about highly intelligent and educated individuals. Bridge is also somewhat different from a mind sport like chess in terms of development. In chess, if you have not reached the top level by 14 you can pretty much give up, whereas there seems to be a longer window in bridge. The vast majority of top players do display talent as juniors though, so perhaps a good starting question is to ask how much talent/success is required for someone to be considered a prodigy? Depending on the answer, you can probably make it so that either the majority of world class players qualify, or that practically none do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomSac Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 Since we seem to be focused on male players thus far, I can remember the Rimstedt siblings making something of a splash back in the day. Haha funny since now there are 2 more young Rimstedts making quite a splash today! FWIW I asked the brothers and they said Cecilia is the best player in their family (which is what I would have guessed). Madala was the obv response I was thinking of when I read the title of this thread. He was incredible at a very young age (and has certainly lived up to the hype he had!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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