Jinksy Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 [hv=pc=n&w=sk862haq5dak75ck2&e=sat5hkt63d862caj8&d=n&v=e&b=9&a=3cp4cdp]266|200[/hv] IMP pairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullve Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 [hv=pc=n&w=sk862haq5dak75ck2&e=sat5hkt63d862caj8&d=n&v=e&b=9&a=3cp4cdp]266|200[/hv] IMP pairs.If LoTT is accurate on this board, then with 17 total trumps (instead of 16, as here), 4♥ is only right if total tricks are divided 10-7, 12-5 or 13-4 in our favour. So P is likely best even then. Also, the 3433 shape and the club holding tend to bring the trick total down, so P is obvious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles123 Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 it's always difficult when we can see both hands, but it does seem like an automatic pass - we have no guarantee whatsoever of a heart fit and we have AJ8 in trumps!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jogs Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 it's always difficult when we can see both hands, but it does seem like an automatic pass - we have no guarantee whatsoever of a heart fit and we have AJ8 in trumps!!Yes, opponents are pushing us around. Pass and this is a opening lead problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jogs Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 If LoTT is accurate on this board, then with 17 total trumps (instead of 16, as here), 4♥ is only right if total tricks are divided 10-7, 12-5 or 13-4 in our favour. So P is likely best even then. Also, the 3433 shape and the club holding tend to bring the trick total down, so P is obvious.So much for LoTT.lol We can see that there are only 15 total trumps. Also opponents have bid to the 4 level with only 8 trumps while missing AKJ of trumps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomSac Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 You shouldn't have posted the west hand IMO, it will bias the responses. Most often the opponents do not have 8 trumps and 10 HCP to bid to 4C. If you had posted the west hand as KQxx QJxxx Axxx -- I'm sure you'd get different responses. That is certainly a much more common hand type than a balanced 19 count on this auction when we have the east hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullve Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 We can see that there are only 15 total trumps. Haha, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinksy Posted December 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 You shouldn't have posted the west hand IMO, it will bias the responses. Most often the opponents do not have 8 trumps and 10 HCP to bid to 4C. If you had posted the west hand as KQxx QJxxx Axxx -- I'm sure you'd get different responses. That is certainly a much more common hand type than a balanced 19 count on this auction when we have the east hand. Yeah, not sure why I did that :unsure: What's your call, though? (and what opposite KQxx QJxxx Axxx - ? :P) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomSac Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 Yeah, not sure why I did that :unsure: What's your call, though? (and what opposite KQxx QJxxx Axxx - ? :P) idk tbh, I'd probably pass but might depend on my opps. Vs little old ladies I would bet that it's right to bid. Vs crazy juniors I'd be happy to pass :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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