manudude03 Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 [hv=pc=n&e=saqthjt985djcaqt8&d=s&v=0&b=11&a=pp3n]133|200[/hv] IMPs, none vul. What's your call here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaitlyn S Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 What is 3NT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted December 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 What is 3NT? Gambling, long solid minor, no outside stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1cha Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 What's your call here?Why not pass and double the 4♦ bid in the next round? If there is no next round, you are unlikely to make a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmnka447 Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 I'm passing because when I come in with this type of hand, Dummy usually shows up with both black kings and ♦A . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesleyC Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 If an opponent had dealt and opened 3NT, then double has a lot of upside. If we pass, Partner might end up stuck with a decent hand but be unable to bid because they have soft values and length in both minors. Or they might have weakish hand with a long major. But opposite a passed partner the upside is considerably lower because both of those hand types can be ruled out. Double might still work out spectacularly well but it could also lead to disaster. One final comment, regarding the description of the 3NT bid - It's quite unusual for a 3rd seat 3NT bid to strictly deny any outside cards because a passed hand partner can't reasonably be expected to have stoppers in every other suit. Most experienced players would describe it more as any hand that wants to gamble 3NT but doesn't have any slam ambitions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted December 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 I think I might have been a little crazy here :)[hv=pc=n&s=sj98542ha3d954ck6&w=sk76hk642dtcj9742&n=s3hq7dakq87632c53&e=saqthjt985djcaqt8&d=s&v=0&b=11&a=pp3n4h4sd5ddppp]399|300[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 South really bid 4♠ with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 South really bid 4♠ with that?Willing to play it not vul and not doubled as a sacrifice, I suppose. Surely pulling to 5m in a crisis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 Willing to play it not vul and not doubled as a sacrifice, I suppose. Surely pulling to 5m in a crisis.OK Now I am understanding the 4♠ bid better. South can tell N's suit is ♦ and strongly thinks 4♥ is cold. (But doesn't the stiff ♠ lead set it? So South's 4♠ offers the choice of sac'ing 4♠ or 5♦. But on a bad day N has only 7♦ and the K♣ isn't onside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 OK Now I am understanding the 4♠ bid better. South can tell N's suit is ♦ and strongly thinks 4♥ is cold. (But doesn't the stiff ♠ lead set it?The stiff spade is not on lead against 4♥. But yes, players do sometimes sac over contracts that were not making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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