Penalty conversion?

[nige1]

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2/1, Imps, none vul, Dealer.

1. Would you open?

2. Now what?[/hv]

[apollo1201]

The opening is a matter of style, if you open all 11 counts systemically it is a better than min. With my partner we play 12 or 11 with extras. Here I'd pass because of 1 too many amongst lack of 10's, main suit a little weak, and the S singleton which will make the rebid odd (I'd prefer having a full opener for rebidding NT with a stiff honor). Reverse the majors, or make the HQ into H&C jacks, or swap H and C honors, or concentrate black honors in one suit, and I go for it.

Now having opened short, having my H honors under the bidder, and partner possibly having just 8, passing is signing for -470 too many times. I guess 2NT is the least of all evils.

[paulg]

If you open such hands, as I prefer, then it places constraints on the doubler to have a hand that makes 2NT playable in such auctions. So doubling with 4 or 5 spades and a six count is just wrong.

[sfi]

I would bid 2NT now, but I would have an agreement that it is artificial. Either 2 places to play or a bad way to get to the 3 level are much more valuable agreements than natural IMO.

 

If I don't have either of those I'd probably try 3C, but it could be pretty bad.

[eagles123]

opening this hand seems automatic, I would just pass the double but accept it could go badly wrong.

[MrAce]

opening this hand seems automatic, I would just pass the double but accept it could go badly wrong.

 

Do you play neg DBL of 2♥ also promise diamonds? I do not.

 

If you start DBL with hands like

 

Qxxxx

x

Qxx

KJxx

 

or

 

KTxx

xx

Qx

KJxxx

 

which I certainly do, then passing is not even an option imo. I can even make it more dramatic and give pd something like

 

KJxx

x

AKxx

KJxx

 

which they can make 2♥ doubled when you are cold for game.

I am not against opening the hand. But what I hate most at bridge is, when people open this and then panic and leave 2♥ double in, in front of the preempt with KQxx. I would not even double 4♥ ffs let alone leaving 2♥ doubled just because I do not have an easy bid.

[Kaitlyn S]

Pass, 2NT. I don't think my hand has enough defense to leave 2H X in.

[rmnka447]

Close, but I'd probably pass the hand with such terrible ♣. If the auction goes (no competition) 1 ♣ - 1 ♠, I don't particularly like rebidding either 1 NT or 2 ♣.

 

Anyhow, there's no way to know what either partner or RHO has except partner has something -- 9-10 -- for the negative double. So there's no guarantee 2 ♥x can be defeated. 3 ♣ on Q98 fifth is insane. So the practical bid is 2 NT. If partner has a 10 pointer with a long suit, it can be bid at the 3 level. If partner is flat, you'll just have to struggle in 2 NT.

[nige1]

Playing 2/1. I would pass, as dealer. Having opened 1♣, I would pass partner's negative double of 2♥ because I dislike the alternative calls of 2N and 3♣ more. Not a winning choice. At the table, the player passed 2♥X and it made easily. Reasonable defence defeats 2N but opponents won't double.

[PhantomSac]

I think passing the X is nuts, you are not even behind the heart bidder. I would bid 2N.

 

Agree with passing as dealer in 2/1 but w/e.

[phil_20686]

Passing is way too much for me and I pass these more than most.

 

Obviously depends on agreements but 2N seems fine if its natural. I'd have passed in first if playing 2/1, especially if playing a short club.