Stephen Tu Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 Probably low priority, but maybe there should be some bids defined to deal with some 3rd seat favorable psyches:[hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?bbo=y&lin=pn%7Chuman%2CRobot%2CRobot%2CRobot%7Cst%7C%7Cmd%7C3S532H9754D9643CT2%2CSK7HKQT63DAQ8CAK9%2CSAJ986HA8D52CJ754%2CSQT4HJ2DKJT7CQ863%7Csv%7CE%7Cah%7CBoard%209%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C2C%7Can%7CStrong%20two%20club%20--%2019%2B%20HCP%3B%2023%2B%20total%20points%3B%20forcing%20to%202N%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C2D%7Can%7C2D%20bid%20waiting%20--%2011-%20HCP%3B%2012-%20total%20points%3B%20forcing%20to%202N%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C2H%7Can%7C4%2B%20%21H%3B%2023%2B%20total%20points%7Cmb%7C2S%7Can%7C4%2B%20%21S%3B%2011-%20HCP%3B%2012-%20total%20points%3B%20forcing%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CH9%7C]400|300[/hv] Sure this tactic is available to all the humans in a robot tournament, but it's a bit unsporting IMO, esp since psyching strong artificial bids is often banned in human tourneys. Interestingly the balance 2H = 4+H 23+ pts maybe on the right track of how these things should be defined, maybe after 2c-p-2d-p-p, the balancing bids should be as if 4th hand had opened 2c :). If south rebids suit, 2nd round overcall should be strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 It is known that now Gibs have no ability to play against psychics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iandayre Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 I guess that's one reason why the ACBL Masterpoint tournaments are all human best hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1eyedjack Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 It is known that now Gibs have no ability to play against psychics.I think that Stephen is well aware of this. His post was more wish list than lament of current state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 I think that Stephen is well aware of this. His post was more wish list than lament of current state. Never.I wouldn't believe Stephen Tu would think so. For the purpose of this Gib game regulation, psychics or others non-Gib bidding system don't apply currently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 And I would tell you that psychics, especially opening 2♣ should be prohibited.So I think the " OP " is meaningless since it is a kind of foul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfi Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 And I would tell you that psychics, especially opening 2♣ should be prohibited.So I think the " OP " is meaningless since it is a kind of foul. LOL, what do you expect the robots to do? Cancel the hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 LOL, what do you expect the robots to do? Cancel the hand? Facing to such foul, I don't know how to deal with it. This is a BBO's thing which needs Jodnn to resolve this kind of issues. Ok?http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfi Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 Facing to such foul, I don't know how to deal with it. This is a BBO's thing which needs Jodnn to resolve this kind of issues. Ok?http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif The most useful thing would be for the robots to simply deal with the psych in a sensible way - evaluate their hand and trust their partner. You know, the same way people deal with it in real life. There's no need to do something silly like banning them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 Facing to such foul, I don't know how to deal with it. This is a BBO's thing which needs Jodnn to resolve this kind of issues. Ok?http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gifNot a priority. And impossibly hard to fix. Anyway I don't actually think it's a major issue since GIB deals with this about as well as 90% of human players on earth would. Try blatantly psyching against the next little old lady you sit against at the club and watch what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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