Nobody has commented on the Ohio abortion bill yet?

[Zelandakh]

Not at all, you're not reading what I said at all, I would regard apartheid as non controversial if a large percentage of both black and white people (polled separately) wanted it (as well as other divisions), not going to happen.

OK, so you want a majority of all groups involved? Is that even possible? There is always going to be some grouping of individuals somewhere down the line that do not support such legislation. And it still does not address the previous point - how large must such a group be to count? After all, I am my own group!

[Cyberyeti]

OK, so you want a majority of all groups involved? Is that even possible? There is always going to be some grouping of individuals somewhere down the line that do not support such legislation. And it still does not address the previous point - how large must such a group be to count? After all, I am my own group!

 

Btw, I'm not saying it's not sometimes right to make legislation without consensus, but merely for something to be uncontroversial, it should get a majority in all of a number of fairly broad groups.

[barmar]

Btw, I'm not saying it's not sometimes right to make legislation without consensus, but merely for something to be uncontroversial, it should get a majority in all of a number of fairly broad groups.

Hoping for concensus among all groups is probably expecting too much for any but the most trivial proposals (which would probably also be favored by an overwhelming majority among the general population, so there's not much need to do the slicing and dicing of different coalitions). But I suppose a concensus among several broad groups that aren't significantly correlated would be adequate.

 

A big problem with the way much legislation happens these days is that it's highly influenced by lobbyists from industry or ideological factions (e.g. the Catholic Church), not as much based on any concensus among the population.