Stefan_O Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Dear Gib Maintainers, Could you please just abolish the 2NT response to a 2C opening?2NT shows 8-11 HCP balanced, and is such horrible, useless convention, esp. since I cannot find any way to locate a 4-4 trump-fit after that when both hands are balanced.All the 3-level rebids to 2NT show a 5-cards suit. MUCH BETTER if Gib just responds with 2D on these hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 There are a number of places I hate the system, but that is a lower priority than bids that are simply broken, sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iandayre Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 There are a number of places I hate the system, but that is a lower priority than bids that are simply broken, sorry. I suppose you are right about priority JDonn, but Stefan is right about this auction. What is sad is that I am going on 3 years playing regularly in GIB tournaments, and BBO has owned GIB for years before that, but such minimal progress has been made. I do thank you for your recent regular responses to posts here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan_O Posted November 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 There are a number of places I hate the system, but that is a lower priority than bids that are simply broken, sorry. OK, could you give us some update of broken bids, where you are actually working on a fix? I agree there are a number of "higher prios" to fix -- here is definitely one, because it pops up every day: http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/topic/74090-robots-need-a-better-gf-system/ But it seems, most needed fixes are generally so complex and have "repercussions" throughout the system, that I get the impression they will never get fixed, anyways. This one (2C-2NT) at least seems so easy that I assume it should be simple to fix. Just remove one bid from the Gib's bidding-box, so to speak.Therefore, I suggested it, along the line ofBetter fix SOMETHING than NOTHING. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 In a GIB upgrade that is coming out soon, one problem that is fixed (of many) is GIB didn't bid correctly over the auction 1N - 2C - 2H - 2S (showing 4 spades and invitational values). Opener might bid 3NT with 4 spades, or opener might bid 4S then responder would bid 5S. That is what I mean by "broken". Not an (arguably) inferior conventional treatment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan_O Posted December 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 In a GIB upgrade that is coming out soon, one problem that is fixed (of many) is GIB didn't bid correctly over the auction 1N - 2C - 2H - 2S (showing 4 spades and invitational values). Opener might bid 3NT with 4 spades, or opener might bid 4S then responder would bid 5S. That is what I mean by "broken". Not an (arguably) inferior conventional treatment. Ok, thanks jdonn.I must say I never encountered that one, that I can remember, though.... The 2C-2NT, I see like every week or more. I would just suggest frequency (+ ease of fix, as suggested above) should also go into your priorization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan_O Posted December 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 Also, how do you define "broken"? When there is no way at all, that I can see, to locate a 4-4 trump fit in any suit, it sure is SERIOUSLY BROKEN, if you ask me.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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