Gerben42 Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 [hv=d=w&v=e&s=s76h5dakq97532ca3]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] 3 passes to you. As I have no clue what to bid I will be generous and include an "other" option in my poll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 3NT Is this not what Gambling 3nt is all about otherwise why bother to have it on CC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 Perhaps 3N, though I am risking to miss a not impossible slam. The problem with opening 1D is that I dont have an ideal rebid after pd's 1M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamaco Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 This seems a 3D opener to me in 4th seat.It avoids opps competition, shows a great suit with full opening and asks pard to bid 3NT with something on the side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 I can make a slam opposite and Ace and a King... Unfortunately, the hand is flawed for a high level preempt. TTwo losers in the Spade suit rules out a conventional 4NT opening. 5♦ jams the auction hopelessly. I'm opening 1♦ and hoping for an intelligent auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 1 Diamond. 3N is presumptuous with these major suit holdings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 I can make a slam opposite and Ace and a King... I want your playing skills mate ;). 1♦ to me, might pass against strong opps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 3NT. A no-brainer for me :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 3N. More worried about missing slam than going down. But most of all worried about the opps discovering their 10 card major fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 3NT is tempting, but I start with 1D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 1 Diamond. 3N is presumptuous with these major suit holdings. Just curious. What do you plan to rebid after pd's 1M? I am not against 1D, just dont know what the ideal rebid is. If there is an idea rebid, I would vote for 1D too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 1 Diamond. 3N is presumptuous with these major suit holdings. Just curious. What do you plan to rebid after pd's 1M? I am not against 1D, just dont know what the ideal rebid is. If there is an idea rebid, I would vote for 1D too. Well, if pard bids 1H and neither of the opps bid then i'll just bid 3N. Even if we have no spade stopper, neither opp overcalled 1S when they were both able to as passed hands so they are likely 4-4. If partner bids 1S, I would settle on the pretty big underbid of 3D. If the opps arent bidding he'll probably have enough to bid again anyways, and if he passes we will often be in the best spot. Nothings perfect. At least this way we avoid alot of ridiculous 3Ns and can find 5D or a diamond partscore if its right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 3NT... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keylime Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 perfect acol 3NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 2C. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted April 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 The full hand can be found here, judge for yourself. Note that a 4th seat 3NT is not discussed, in other seats it would show no side A/K. http://online.bridgebase.com/myhands/hands...ername=Gerben42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamaco Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 The full hand can be found here, judge for yourself. Note that a 4th seat 3NT is not discussed, in other seats it would show no side A/K. http://online.bridgebase.com/myhands/hands...ername=Gerben42 Well, your opps were cold for 4 spades. Even going down in 3NT not a big issue, no? BTW, in the 4th seat I recommnd to open a "Gambling 3NT" as 3 of the minor.Usually, when opps know how to bid (not these ones: how come South did not open ?? ) there is little to preempt (e.g. they knew what they were doing when they passed befor, they won't "wake up" now: and even if they do, pard will have his share of points to get at their throat). If you open the "Gambling" hand 3m, the likely 3NT will be rightsided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Well, your opps were cold for 4 spades. Even going down in 3NT not a big issue, no? Well, on the other hand, your own side is cold for 5D,and even 5C is a reasonable contract. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted April 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 So if a gambing hand opens 3m, what does p p p 3NT show? 5♠x -1 is par on this hand. They make 4♠ we make 5♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoeless Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 yup 2c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamaco Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 So if a gambing hand opens 3m, what does p p p 3NT show? yu can play 3NT as you like, but I advise against gambling, because it wrongsides the contract even when it is right to play in 3NT. The hand receiving the lead should be the other. 3NT could be as well undefined, I see nothing wrong in it.Better having 3NT undefined rather than a bad definition. If you intend to define 3NT at all cost, it depends on whether you play Namyats in 4th seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 So if a gambing hand opens 3m, what does p p p 3NT show? yu can play 3NT as you like, but I advise against gambling, because it wrongsides the contract even when it is right to play in 3NT. The hand receiving the lead should be the other. 3NT could be as well undefined, I see nothing wrong in it.Better having 3NT undefined rather than a bad definition. If you intend to define 3NT at all cost, it depends on whether you play Namyats in 4th seat. at least 25-27 is a better definition than undefined? I know, I know it's oldschool :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42 Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 I like the idea of a 3m-opening bid in 4th seat with such hands. Recently I had the same problem in the league. Since the stack was in ♣s I decided to open a precision 2♣ which became the final contract. 3NT played by p was cold. Gambling 3NT is mainly a preemptive bid, in 4th seat it makes no sense tmho. Caren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Unlucky that both your opponents passed opening bids. I still like 3N. My condolences, Gerben. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antoine Fourrière Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 4♦ should show that kind of hand in the passout seat, giving the choice between pass, a natural 4N (4N from pard's hand may be easier than 3N from your hand) or 5/6♦.3♦ seems more useful as a bar bid, with something like x AQ KQJxxx xxxx. For the record, a two-way 3♠ (natural or solid diamonds) wouldn't have worked too well on this hand. (No, I'm not implying it is a silly convention.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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