Gib didn't correct back after blackwood

[lycier]

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This hand is from 8-board mp Arena Challenges.

After 5♣ to answer my blackwood asking bid, I really have no way to confirm it is zero or 3 hey cards in its hand, only return to 5♥.

However I have to say that " 6♥ - Correct back " is a necessary obligation to partner for north Gib.

 

(Note actually I am at south seat.)

[manudude03]

Well, you do know North has 3 key cards, but I have noticed that corrections haven't been happening. On this hand, you have 19 HCP, if you are missing AAK, partner would have at most 10HCP. Possible I suppose, but x JTxxxx KQJ QJx doesn't look like an opening bid.

[lycier]

Well, you do know North has 3 key cards, but I have noticed that corrections haven't been happening. On this hand, you have 19 HCP, if you are missing AAK, partner would have at most 10HCP. Possible I suppose, but x JTxxxx KQJ QJx doesn't look like an opening bid.

 

Thank you for your good reply.http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif

However, Helgemo had ever said that guess is a worst part of this game.

Now let me try, then Gib will tell you correct answer.

 

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How about it?

[lycier]

Sorry, I forgot to tell you Gib bidding rule just now.

If hold 5+ cards major suit only with 12TPs in the 10hcp hand, Gib will open .

[smerriman]

Just to play devil's advocate -if you don't want to bid the slam because you think there is a chance (albeit very small) that Gib has 0 keycards, doesn't Gib have an identical excuse that there is a chance (albeit very small) that you have 0 keycards?

 

The first virtually requires Gib to have every point but the aces - the second requires you to - eg:

 

KQJx

Qxx

KQJ

KQJ

 

You could even take away a jack or two.

[cloa513]

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This hand is from 8-board mp Arena Challenges.

After 5♣ to answer my blackwood asking bid, I really have no way to confirm it is zero or 3 hey cards in its hand, only return to 5♥.

However I have to say that " 6♥ - Correct back " is a necessary obligation to partner for north Gib.

 

(Note actually I am at south seat.)

Is the correct intermediate bid, 3H or can you cue even?

[johnu]

Possible I suppose, but x JTxxxx KQJ QJx doesn't look like an opening bid.

 

GIB opens a lot of hands that don't look like an opening bid :P There are no good or bad total points in the GIB system, only points.

[lycier]

There are no good or bad total points in the GIB system, only points.

 

Excellent reply.

Now I understand exactly this principle.

Thank you.

[jdonn]

This won't be changing. FWIW in live bridge I don't play that partner corrects with the higher amount either.