What is suggested by hesitation?

[blackshoe]

So if you can't figure out a way to rule against someone based on 16B, you just revert to 73C, since the vague "must carefully avoid taking any advantage" is much easier to apply than performing the LA calculus?

No, and I'm rather insulted that you would think so. I was not talking about how the director should rule, I was talking about how a player who may be in receipt of UI should proceed at the table. I thought the context was enough to make that clear but apparently it was not. :huh:

[barmar]

No, and I'm rather insulted that you would think so. I was not talking about how the director should rule, I was talking about how a player who may be in receipt of UI should proceed at the table. I thought the context was enough to make that clear but apparently it was not. :huh:

It's probably my fault, I lost track of the context of the thread.

 

And in that case, I agree with you. Trying to figure out LAs in a timely manner when you're in the critical situation is just too damn hard (how are you supposed to know what other players would consider -- you're not allowed to do a poll). Just make your best attempt to avoid doing something that's obviously suggested by the UI. And be ready to accept that the TD might rule against you when he applies 16B.

[aguahombre]

My recommendation of a thought process for the player to go through before making his choice in a UI situation was not intended as a legal brief. When I use it it saves me time, doesn't require extra time.

 

Fairly quickly I can know if my intended call is a choice from among other calls. A poll of people who think they know our methods is not my concern at that time. If it is ruled that I had a LA, so be it.

 

Anyway, if my process at the table seems helpful to anyone, use it. If not, don't.

 

I sometimes believe my choice has a LA, and then consider the effect of the UI before choosing; sometimes I don't. So, it is not the same as ignoring the UI as some people advocate.

[blackshoe]

It's probably my fault, I lost track of the context of the thread.

 

And in that case, I agree with you. Trying to figure out LAs in a timely manner when you're in the critical situation is just too damn hard (how are you supposed to know what other players would consider -- you're not allowed to do a poll). Just make your best attempt to avoid doing something that's obviously suggested by the UI. And be ready to accept that the TD might rule against you when he applies 16B.

Prezackly. B-)