Walddk Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 [hv=d=w&v=b&s=s5h8643dk75c108742]133|100|Scoring: IMPW: 1S - N: 2S (Michaels) - E: 2NT (limit or better with spade support) - S:??[/hv] Which action do you take now? 1. PASS. I am too weak to act. 2. 3♦. Lead directing against a high spade contract. 3. 4♥. Maybe they will miss the slam if they have one. 4. 5♥. Let them make the last guess. If you think any other bid is better than one of the above, I have given you an "Other" option too. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 I vote for 4♥, partner can still be strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 3H. If partner feels like sacrifing, that is ok with me, but I like to have a safety net. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 4H. Partner shouldn't take this as a strong bid on the auction. I'll now leave the last move up to him. I'd be very surprised to get doubled here and it be a bad score Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 I'll bid 4♥.This is to high, but if i bid 5♥ opps will know that i think, they might have a slam. I know lots of players who would start thinking about slam at once, just because of that. If by any chance partner is strong or we have a perfect double fit, we might make 4, but hardly 5.Opps 4♠ is a "sticky" bid, they might stick to it even if they can make 6+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 I pass. I have no mood for sacrifice with equal vul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guggie Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 5♥pass is an alternative. 4spades is a certainty. My hand is weak but I have support for both minors. As I play solid Michaels cuebids qua playing strenght, it should not cost nore than 500. 3♥ or 3♦ give opps plenty room to tell their strong and weak points, 5♥ puts a lot of pressure on them. Also I like spectacular actions;-) Replied first read other answers later: hotspot surely has a point. On the other hand, cuing possibilities on the 4 level are cut off, so its guesswork now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 Pass, well done P. Let them sort it out now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 I think this one is awfully close. I'll carry through the alternatives. Pass - This may work if they end up overreaching to a slam they shouldn't be in. If I pass, I conceal my heart fit and they both might overrate their heart shortage. However, I haven't take up any space either and they can now paint their hands out to a fuller description will most likely find the right spot, so I reject this bid. 3♦ - I reject this one easily as I don't know if I want partner leading a diamond. I can imagine it's right the ace is on my right and partner's short, but it's too contrived that it's better if I let partner carry on with his normal lead. 4♥ - seems about at the right level to me. At favourable I might be braver, but if partner turns up with hearts and diamonds (as the odds seem he might), then I may be too high and go for a bundle. 5♥ - I think this is a pushy bid and one I might make if I wanted to put on the maximum pressure on opponents and only in certain states of the match. Remember also that partner is still there and you will be awfully unhappy if he goes on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 Imo bidding 4♥ is absolutely useless, since they'll bid 4♠ anyway... 5♥ might be better, but if they don't have slam you'll probably go down too much. I pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olegru Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 3♠ - "Partner I wish to play 4♥ and willing to sacrifice on a fifth level. Up to you." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 5♥. Yes I'd like a 5th trump, but the double fit either way makes up for it. I assume 2♠ can be weak or strong. There's just enough room - barely - for pard to have the strong variety, but he probably has under 10. If thats the case, you can throw 4♠ against the wall. Most likely, pard has diamonds. A lot of really neat things could be going on: pard could be 3550. Now with some decent minimums, 5♥ is making - perhaps on a diamond guess. Even if pard has the likely 2551, 5♥ looks real cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 4H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 5H. 2nd choice pass. I'm assuming that Michaels is either weak or very strong (possible but unlikely, in view of the opps bidding). Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 4♥, if they bid 4spI will bid 5♥ looking like an idiot, maybe they will decide to double. If I bid 5♥ directly I will force them to bid 5♠ which I think is a make.I think we lose 1 spade, 1 club and either 1 heart or 1 diamond. The advantage of 4♥ and then 5♥ is that they have two chances to make a wrong decision. The other advantage is that if Lefty bids 4s pd can double with Ax, QJTxx, Axxxx, x he will lead a club I will play the lowest one and they will be down 1 in 4sp when we were also down 1 in 4♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamaco Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 I chose 4H but not too happy about it. The reason is not so much that we may go down too much, nor that maybe 5H puts real pressure. What I dislike of the bid is that when opps have a clear established fit higher ranking, and it is clear they are going to bid even over our raise, quite often the knowledge of our raise helps them to reevaluate their combined hcp: when one preempts and the other raises, often the strong side has nothing wasted. It would not be the first nor the last time that even very good pairs miss a slam if the preemptor pard does NOT raise whereas they bid it confidently even with 26 hcp because they know nothing is wasted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 5♥ for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 You guys are bidding too much, if partner is strong you are getting 500 against nothing, or maybe -790, thre isn't much to gain bidding when both vulnerable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 "You guys are bidding too much, if partner is strong you are getting 500 against nothing, or maybe -790, thre isn't much to gain bidding when both vulnerable." There is if the opps have slam. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 "You guys are bidding too much, if partner is strong you are getting 500 against nothing, or maybe -790, thre isn't much to gain bidding when both vulnerable." There is if the opps have slam. Peter So you put all eggs in one basket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 "So you put all eggs in one basket." So do you. So does anybody. The auction doesn't have room for two baskets - that's what makes it a challenge. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 "So you put all eggs in one basket." So do you. So does anybody. The auction doesn't have room for two baskets - that's what makes it a challenge. Peter No, pass has more than one way to win. 2N shows limit+, they may stop at 3S. Pd could be strong, opp may bid 4S and and pd may defeat it alone. 5Hx may go down three. By bidding 5H, the only time you gain is, they bid and make 4s, and 5h goes down only two, AND they and we all make right decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 4H, imo, does absolutely nothing... on the bidding i'm almost certain they have at least game... my 5H bid has to make them afraid of missing slam... make them guess, 5S or 6S or double Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 I bid a save-suggesting robsonish 3NT :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 "No, pass has more than one way to win. 2N shows limit+, they may stop at 3S. Pd could be strong, opp may bid 4S and and pd may defeat it alone. 5Hx may go down three." I said I'm assuming that Michaels is either weak or very strong. If so, pd is VERY likely weak, in which case opps will bid 4S and make overtricks, and quite possibly a slam. If Michaels can be intermediate, things get muddled, and pass is reasonable. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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