Trumpace Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 Adv+, please refrain from posting answers too early. [hv=v=n&n=sqjt98hqj3dqj2c32&s=sakha2da5cakqj764]133|200|Scoring: RubberContract 6♣. West leads the club 10.[/hv] Contract is 6♣ and West's opening lead is the ♣10.The play goes as follows Trick 1: ♣10 ♣2 ♥4 ♣A (Won by S)Trick 2: ♣K ♣5 ♣3 ♥5 (Won by S)Trick 3: ♣Q ♣8 ♠8 ♥ 6 (Won by S)Trick 4: ♣J ♣9 ♥3 ♦4 (Won by S)Trick 5: ♦A ♦3 ♦2 ♦6 (Won by S)Trick 5: ♦5 ♦K ♦J ♦7 (Won by W)Trick 6: ♠2 ♠9 ♠3 ♠K (Won by S) Declarer then played off his trumps and lost a heart in the end. Down 1. What mistake(s) did the declarer make? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerardo Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 Must unblock the ♠s ASAP. Then I think comes either red Ace, exiting in the same suit. If we hit LHO's King, he must give us an entry to dummy now. If not, we must duck RHO's return in the other red suit (only one which doesn't give away the contract), and hope [unless we play for LHO singleton K] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 Allow me, without revealing anything, to say that is a very difficult one and virtually impossible for beginners and intermediates to spot. Even many advanced players will not get it right. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpace Posted April 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 Allow me, without revealing anything, to say that is a very difficult one and virtually impossible for beginners and intermediates to spot. Even many advanced players will not get it right. Roland On the table, I would agree that this is a difficult one to spot, but as a puzzle, away from the table I am not so sure, but you are a far better judge than me in these matters. Anyway, your reply serves as a hint which definitely makes it easier now, as people will start looking for a difficult line! Apologies for posting this in the wrong forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 Routine textbook play, found in every book on play problem.. we have had similar problems here in the past. Of course, that doesn't mean it is not a good one to present again. You should look four a solution. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 Routine textbook play, found in every book on play problem.. we have had similar problems here in the past. Of course, that doesn't mean it is not a good one to present again. You should look four a solution. :-) Your spelling is terrible Ben, did you look four some help? :-) Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 Apologies for posting this in the wrong forum. Don't get me wrong please. I think the problem is fine, also in this forum. It would be wasted on experts and better anyway. They wouldn't have a clue :lol: Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 I have a guess, but don't want to give anything away, so I'll include it in hidden text. If trumps are 3-1 with West, you can draw 2 rounds and endplay him after draw 2 rounds of spades (If he ruffs the first you are in trouble). If trumps are 2-2 you need West to win, so I think exiting in trumps is not warranted and now it's down to a red K guess. If West has the one you exit in or both (after drawing trumps and unblocking spades), then you are home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 a classic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpace Posted April 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 I have a guess, but don't want to give anything away, so I'll include it in hidden text. Trumps split 4-0, as East discards a ♥ on Trick 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 LOL. Wasn't paying attention to the first trick played. However, I don't think it changes anything in the play I described above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 When East showed out at first ♣, it was (almost) a claim hand provided West had at least one ♠. Honestly, I could get wrong at the table if I didn't plan it carefully, as it happened quite often to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sceptic Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 A clubs then 2 more round of clubs then A K spades then end play west and job done (this took 2 mins to think of answer and 24 hours to live down the shame when you tell me it is wrong) hahahahaaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sceptic Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 using 4 clubs for the end play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sceptic Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 I cant see any lead from west that does not give you an entry to your spades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 Absolutely right Wayne! West will serve as a stepping stone. It won't help her to play club 10, 9 and 8 to the first 3 tricks. South has the precious ♣4, and West's lowest club is the FIVE! Switch the 4 and 5 and West can avoid the endplay by unblocking her clubs. The funny thing about this hand is that West will get an unexpected and undesirable trump trick. So to sum it up, declarer made the following mistakes: 1. She should stop drawing trumps after 3 rounds. 2. She should then unblock ♠AK. 3. Finally exit with a trump to West. The defenders didn't make any mistakes. The contract was wash&go as soon as West had at least 3 clubs and 1 spade. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 Another interesting aspect is that even if declarer draws all trumps, she still has a very good chance of making the slam. 1. Draw all outstanding trumps. 2. Unblock ♠AK. 3. Cash a red ace. It doesn't matter which, if either defender has both kings. That defender will get endplayed next when the spot card in the same suit is led. The worst scenario is when they have one king each. Then you are on a guess as to which red ace to cash. You must cash the one where West has the king. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 However, if the first round of spades is ruffed and a red suit returned and the Q is not covered, you have a story only the Peregrine could appreciate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoeless Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamaco Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 Throw west in with the 4th low trump after unblocking spades.Now no matter what west returns, declarer will be able to reach dummy. ----------------------[Edit]: sorry I had skipped the replies (not to read other folks' suggestions). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 It appears I have a trump loser! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 As long as West has 1 or more ♠s, this is laydown since you can endplay him with ♣ (or a ♠ ruff)... Not with ♦, not with ♥, but in a suit you have total control of ;) ♣4, 3 and 2 are great cards! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daswallow Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 I think we can win lead, cash top two spades, then throw LHO in with last trump. He will be endplayed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 I think we can win lead, cash top two spades, then throw LHO in with last trump. He will be endplayed! You may get away with this, but reversing the order is better in case West ruffs the first or second spade. Then he has a trump exit. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 Change the club spots around and its a good problem for the B/I as throw in. With the "stronger" (the 5 instead of the 4) club holding, its more on an int / adv level, with the trump unblock by West. By the way, even with the stronger clubs, you are still making if both red kings are in the same hand. And, with the actual hand, you need to "shrug" as you play the 2nd trump. Assuming west is asleep, then 3rd and 4th trump, A-K♠ and advance the greek gift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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