smerriman Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 [hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?sn=smerriman&s=SAK32HA975DQ3CJ87&wn=Robot&w=S985HK82DK6CAQ943&nn=Robot&n=SQJT7HQJDAJT542CT&en=Robot&e=S64HT643D987CK652&d=n&v=n&b=5&a=1D(Minor%20suit%20opening%20--%203+%20%21D%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points)P1H(One%20over%20one%20--%204+%20%21H%3B%206+%20total%20points)2C(Two-level%20overcall%20--%205+%20%21C%3B%2010+%20HCP%3B%2018-%20total%20points)2D(Opener%20rebids%20his%20D%20--%202-%20%21H%3B%203-%20%21S%3B%2011-15%20HCP%3B%20twice%20rebiddable%20%21D%3B%2012-16%20total%20points)P3C(2+%20%21D%3B%204+%20%21H%3B%2012+%20HCP%3B%2013+%20total%20points%3B%20forcing%20to%203N)P3S(2-%20%21H%3B%203%20%21S%3B%2011-15%20HCP%3B%20twice%20rebiddable%20%21D%3B%2012-16%20total%20points%3B%20partial%20stop%20in%20%21S%3B%20forcing)P4D(2+%20%21D%3B%204+%20%21H%3B%2032-%20HCP%3B%2017+%20total%20points)P5D(2-%20%21H%3B%203%20%21S%3B%2011+%20HCP%3B%20twice%20rebiddable%20%21D%3B%2012-13%20total%20points%3B%20partial%20stop%20in%20%21S)PPP&p=C2C7CACTC4D2C5C8S7S4SKS5DQDKDAD7DJD9D3D6DTD8CJH2HQH4H5HKC3D4C6H7&c=11]400|300[/hv] Something went very wrong with the descriptions here. Firstly, Gib's 2♦ apparently denies 4 spades. The bid itself seems fine. The main problem arises after Gib's 3♠. My 4♦ shows 17+ points. Yet there wasn't any alternative bid - the one I really wanted to make was a natural 4♠. Gib described that as.. a cuebid in spades. Incidentally, somehow 5♦ by Gib then shows less points (12-13) than its previous bid (12-16). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iandayre Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Agreed there is no reason that 2D should deny 4 Spades after the 2C interference. I suspect you would have done better to bid 2S - certainly natural and forcing - yourself next. If GIB doesn't support Spades after that, we have a bigger problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 I think this is a Gib bidding system problem. First stepWith 2♣ interference, opener's rebid-2♦ should deny 3-card ♥ or 4-card ♥ support, and it shouldn't deny 4-card ♠. Here if opener wants to rebid 2♠, it is really a unreasonable bid because 2♠ should show " opener reverse -- 5+♦,4♠,2-♥,21-hcp,18-22TPs".Here, no problem. Second stepAfter 2♦, responder can't rebid 2♠ to force to game because 2♠ should show 5-card ♥ + 4-card ♠. So it is only way for south seat to rebid 3♣. Unfortunately opener's rebid 3♠ only shows 3-card♠. There is no way for Gib to find another major fit in such case. ThirdSee 4♦ and 4♠, their explanations are absurb.[hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?sn=lycier&s=SAK32HA975DQ3CJ87&wn=Robot&w=S985HK82DK6CAQ943&nn=Robot&n=SQJT7HQJDAJT542CT&en=Robot&e=S64HT643D987CK652&d=n&v=o&b=1&a=1D(Minor%20suit%20opening%20--%203+%20%21D%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points)P1H(One%20over%20one%20--%204+%20%21H%3B%206+%20total%20points)2C(Two-level%20overcall%20--%205+%20%21C%3B%2010+%20HCP%3B%2018-%20total%20points)2D(Opener%20rebids%20his%20D%20--%202-%20%21H%3B%203-%20%21S%3B%2011-15%20HCP%3B%20twice%20rebiddable%20%21D%3B%2012-16%20total%20points)P3C(2+%20%21D%3B%204+%20%21H%3B%2012+%20HCP%3B%2013+%20total%20points%3B%20forcing%20to%203N)P3S(2-%20%21H%3B%203%20%21S%3B%2011-15%20HCP%3B%20twice%20rebiddable%20%21D%3B%2012-16%20total%20points%3B%20partial%20stop%20in%20%21S%3B%20forcing)P4S(Cue%20bid%20--%201+%20%21C%3B%202+%20%21D%3B%204+%20%21H%3B%20no%20%21CA%3B%20no%20%21HA%3B%20%21SA%3B%2019+%20total%20points)P4N(Blackwood%20%5BD%5D%20--%202-%20%21H%3B%203%20%21S%3B%2015-%20HCP%3B%20twice%20rebiddable%20%21D%3B%2013-16%20total%20points%3B%20partial%20stop%20in%20%21S)P5S(Two%20or%20five%20key%20cards%3B%20queen%20--%201+%20%21C%3B%202+%20%21D%3B%204+%20%21H%3B%20no%20%21CA%3B%20%21DQ%3B%20no%20%21HA%3B%20%21SA%3B%2019+%20total%20points)P6D(2-%20%21H%3B%203%20%21S%3B%2015-%20HCP%3B%20twice%20rebiddable%20%21D%3B%2013-16%20total%20points%3B%20partial%20stop%20in%20%21S)PPP&p=C2C8CACTC4D2C5C7HQH4H5HKH8HJH6H9S7S6SAS8DQDKDAD8DJD9D3D6DTD7S2C3D5C6H7C9D4HTCJS9SQS4S3S5SJH3SKH2HACQSTCK]400|300[/hv] Even if responder really rebids 2♠, opener's 3♠ raise only shows 3 cards ♠. [hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?sn=lycier&s=SAK32HA975DQ3CJ87&wn=Robot&w=S985HK82DK6CAQ943&nn=Robot&n=SQJT7HQJDAJT542CT&en=Robot&e=S64HT643D987CK652&d=n&v=o&b=1&a=1D(Minor%20suit%20opening%20--%203+%20%21D%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points)P1H(One%20over%20one%20--%204+%20%21H%3B%206+%20total%20points)2C(Two-level%20overcall%20--%205+%20%21C%3B%2010+%20HCP%3B%2018-%20total%20points)2D(Opener%20rebids%20his%20D%20--%202-%20%21H%3B%203-%20%21S%3B%2011-15%20HCP%3B%20twice%20rebiddable%20%21D%3B%2012-16%20total%20points)P2S(Responder%20reverse%20--%205+%20%21H%3B%20biddable%20%21S%3B%2013+%20total%20points%3B%20forcing%20to%203N)P3S(2-%20%21H%3B%203%20%21S%3B%2011-15%20HCP%3B%20twice%20rebiddable%20%21D%3B%2012-16%20total%20points%3B%20likely%20stop%20in%20%21S%3B%20forcing)P4S(5+%20%21H%3B%205+%20%21S%3B%2012+%20HCP%3B%2013-16%20total%20points)PPP&p=CACTC6C7S5S7S6S2STS4S3S8SJD7SKS9DQD6D2D8D3DKDAD9DJH4C8C9DTH3H5H2D4C5H7C4D5H6H9C3HJHTHAH8CJCQSQCKHQC2SAHK]400|300[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 Yes obviously the problem is that normally a 2D rebid after 1D 1H denies four spades, but a change should be made to account for this auction where 1S is no longer available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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