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[Jinksy]

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IMPs. Think you can take my crown?

[rmnka447]

Pass.

 

We've got a fit. There's no way to know what's going on. Bidding 4 ♠ with a 9 loser hand without any ruffing values and ♣ K under the ♣ bidder is a pure crap shoot.

[neilkaz]

My daddy taught me to bid 4♠ over 4♥ often but I suspect he'd join me in passing this flat hand.

[sfi]

*Shrug* 4S.

 

I'd be the only one defending 4H if I passed this in an Australian tournament. I'm not sure enough to go against the field.

[MrAce]

Passing would not even occur to me, let alone actually doing it.

I think they deserve something like

 

AJxxxx

x

AQxx

xx

 

Where

 

a-Both 4M makes

b-4h makes 4sp down 1

c-4S makes 4h down 1

d-They both go down 1

e-They may bid 5♥

f-They may fail to double when both don;t have anything in spades and only holding half of the deck in hcps.

 

Passing wins in extreme conditions such as

 

a-We go down -300 or -500 when they do not make game.

b-We can take only 6 tricks in 4♠ when they make game.

 

Are these possible? Yes. Are they likely?No

 

One should play this game to win. I would not want to be teammates with people who passes this which is a big alarm of submissive/surrendering style.

[mcphee]

For those who passed obviously expect their partners to bid 4S when its making. In view of the trump holding we have I suspect they won't. Although the K of club may be badly placed, I do not expect partner to have o/c a trash suit with 3 fast C losers. Defensively our hand sucks. Will they double 4S? Maybe they do but damage is not going to be massive.

[nige1]

I rank

1. 4♠ = NAT. Might make. Your good trumps will inhibit a double.
2. Pass = NAT. Reasonable, considering your flat shape and badly placed clubs but partner might get the impression that you lack confidence in his declarer play.
3. Double = OPT. Offensive values. No surprises for opponents. Expect criticism unless successful.

When I click on the "other" vote in the poll, I don't see a name

[SteveMoe]

4♠. Give them the last guess.

[Phil]

4♠. Give them the last guess.

 

I think 4♥ gave you (us) the last guess. GL.

 

Applying the principle of - let yourself get pushed up one level

[SteveMoe]

I think 4♥ gave you (us) the last guess. GL.

 

Applying the principle of - let yourself get pushed up one level

 

No fear here. Yes, poor shape. However partner must have an opening hand (my ♠ are too good). They have to beat us by 3 to make my bid bad. That's not happening. Partner's ♥ values and my ♣ values are not well placed to defeat their game. Their guess.

[chasetb]

Larry Cohen said to usually bid 4♠ over 4♥, and while I hate 4333 hands, I have 4-card support and values in Spades, and while not likely, a possibly useful K♣. I'll take the dive and bid it.