Trumpality

[helene_t]

I like to bounce ideas off of people to see whether or not the ideas can be taken down legitimately. Sort of from the Socratic method.

He-he I remember things like that from the Marxist school I attended before college. We had lots of discussions about political issues. I found it boring and frankly un-sportive to argue a case which everybody would agree with so I would often argue things like genocide, nuclear war or slavery. It was before the word "troll" went viral :)

[Winstonm]

In Trumpality, the Republican Party did not reject its most Republican candidates but simply went for the "smartest guy in the room". Unfortunately, this may be true. :(

[kenrexford]

Crook

Goofy Southerner

Actor

Bush

Clinton

Bush

Community Organizer

 

Our next choice?

 

Goofy Southerner Crook Clinton

 

Or

 

Crook Actor

 

I just wish we had a Bush Community Organizer to elect.

[kenberg]

Crook

Goofy Southerner

Actor

Bush

Clinton

Bush

Community Organizer

 

Our next choice?

 

Goofy Southerner Crook Clinton

 

Or

 

Crook Actor

 

I just wish we had a Bush Community Organizer to elect.

 

Otherwise put? We are in deep stuff.

But some stuff is deeper than other stuff.

[Trinidad]

Otherwise put? We are in deep stuff.

But some stuff is deeper than other stuff.

I trust that, as an academic, you know what BS, MS and PhD stand for... ;)

 

IMO, a USA with DT as POTUS has it PhD.

 

Rik

[kenberg]

I trust that, as an academic, you know what BS, MS and PhD stand for... ;)

 

IMO, a USA with DT as POTUS has it PhD.

 

Rik

 

I first learned this from my high school trig teacher. He and I were both a bit nuts, each in our own way.

 

When I get optimistic, it goes like this:

 

Let us accept that Trump is channeling fear and anger. And there is a lot of fear and anger. But there is more to any person than fear and anger, and then we must ask whether Trump, at all, represents this additional part of us. I like to hope people are thinking this through and saying no he does not.

[Al_U_Card]

I first learned this from my high school trig teacher. He and I were both a bit nuts, each in our own way.

 

When I get optimistic, it goes like this:

 

Let us accept that Trump is channeling fear and anger. And there is a lot of fear and anger. But there is more to any person than fear and anger, and then we must ask whether Trump, at all, represents this additional part of us. I like to hope people are thinking this through and saying no he does not.

As with all pitch-men, he is pandering to a perceived need. We are not talking philosophy or ideology, just simply the current sentiment that needs to be addressed. No need to come up with well-reasoned arguments or rationales, (Remember Reagan and the "New Dawning in America"? Now that was a concept for a time of disgust and dissatisfaction.) you just need to be seen to be taking the popular sentiment under consideration.

[Winstonm]

In Trumpality, there is only Trump.

[Winstonm]

While watching the second debate, I kept wondering why someone as intelligent and knowledgeable as Hillary Clinton should debate someone as obviously uninformed as Donald Trump - having Trump as some kind of viable Presidential candidate and giving him a stage to spout his vitriol is the most humiliating thing that has ever happened in U.S. politics period.

[Hanoi5]

I was wondering why nobody mentioned Hillary saying she wanted to arm the Kurds.

[Winstonm]

Do you think arming the Kurds is problematic?

[kenberg]

As with all pitch-men, he is pandering to a perceived need. We are not talking philosophy or ideology, just simply the current sentiment that needs to be addressed. No need to come up with well-reasoned arguments or rationales, (Remember Reagan and the "New Dawning in America"? Now that was a concept for a time of disgust and dissatisfaction.) you just need to be seen to be taking the popular sentiment under consideration.

 

Ok, he is just a pitchman pandering to the crowd. How is that going for him?

 

As the old Peggy Lee song goes "Is that all there is?" He is a pitchman. He got a lot of businessmen, who surely should have known better, to trust him. And then he got the nomination, to the great embarrassment of many in the party. Now, it's over. Finis.

 

Searching hard for anything good in this campaign, it might be the total death of the idea that making a lot of money is, by itself, a qualification for the presidency. Ross Perot damaged that idea, Trump will bury it.

[Al_U_Card]

Do you think arming the Kurds is problematic?

Well, they were set on the path of Murray Bookchin by their ertswhile leader (now in prison), so they are a real threat to capitalism but the real issue is the perceived threat to Turkey, Iraq, Iran and Syria. They are all deathly afraid of a Kurd homeland because the Kurds, much like the Jews, are a people first and a political/religious entity second. This leads to furious and fatal conflicts.

[Al_U_Card]

Ok, he is just a pitchman pandering to the crowd. How is that going for him?

 

As the old Peggy Lee song goes "Is that all there is?" He is a pitchman. He got a lot of businessmen, who surely should have known better, to trust him. And then he got the nomination, to the great embarrassment of many in the party. Now, it's over. Finis.

 

Searching hard for anything good in this campaign, it might be the total death of the idea that making a lot of money is, by itself, a qualification for the presidency. Ross Perot damaged that idea, Trump will bury it.

Like his precursor P.T.Barnum, every minute he gets another one so maybe not that quickly. What is good is the demonstration that the system is absurd, broken and without merit. The US is on the brink of a paradigm shift that will either ruin it or take it to the next level. What that level is, remains to be seen.

[Winstonm]

Ok, he is just a pitchman pandering to the crowd. How is that going for him?

 

As the old Peggy Lee song goes "Is that all there is?" He is a pitchman. He got a lot of businessmen, who surely should have known better, to trust him. And then he got the nomination, to the great embarrassment of many in the party. Now, it's over. Finis.

 

Searching hard for anything good in this campaign, it might be the total death of the idea that making a lot of money is, by itself, a qualification for the presidency. Ross Perot damaged that idea, Trump will bury it.

We also have to remember that Reagan was governor of California, so it wasn't like he was devoid of political experience.

[Al_U_Card]

We also have to remember that Reagan was governor of California, so it wasn't like he was devoid of political experience.

Experiences like reading from cue-cards during negotiations with the Russians and having the wrong card but not realizing it and continuing for several minutes?

Reagan was an actor, a snitch and a toady. Not the best example to follow or recommend.

[Winstonm]

Experiences like reading from cue-cards during negotiations with the Russians and having the wrong card but not realizing it and continuing for several minutes?

Reagan was an actor, a snitch and a toady. Not the best example to follow or recommend.

Experience like winning an election.

[Al_U_Card]

Experience like winning an election.

Figureheads are at the front of a ship but they have nothing to do with its function or its direction or its eventual destination. Perhaps the best definition of Ronnie and his "experiences".